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Post by skindoginphilly on Feb 24, 2016 11:46:13 GMT -5
If you watched the Senior Bowl practices, this guy was just too quick and elusive for most, if not all of the interior OL.
Mayock could not keep up with the superlatives in live action.
With Barry allowing his DTs to penetrate, Rankins can get it done....forget the short arms and other conventional arguments, this guy is speed and quickness. I could see him causing real problems for the Dallas OL All-stars that we have to contend with for the next 4 years.
PS - I also have developed a man-crush from watching the tape of Karl Joseph - the safety from WVU. Just a hitting and intercepting baller. If we could get Rankins at #21 and Joseph with our 2nd round pick, I would feel much better about our Defense.
Then grab a center, CB, and linebacker to complete the laundry list.
Go SMac go
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Feb 24, 2016 14:04:00 GMT -5
Well Mayock is also a fan of Joseph. He has him ranked as his #1 safety (not just top SS, but top Safety overall).
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Post by tlusby on Feb 24, 2016 19:44:50 GMT -5
Can he play either 0,1, or 3 techniques? Essentially, can he play DT in a 4-3 or NT in a 3-4?
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Post by joewash on Feb 24, 2016 20:41:51 GMT -5
My knock against Karl Joseph is he is 197 lbs but plays like he is a 220 lb SS. He absolutely knocks folks backward at the college level, but I see an oft injured pro career when dealing with RBs and TEs that deliver a bigger hit. And he's not a FS type Center fielder, that is what we need.
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Post by raypetty on Feb 24, 2016 20:48:39 GMT -5
Watched Joseph play here in WV. As violent as he is with his build he might end up having an injury riddled type length career like a former Indy Colt player named Bob Saunders.
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Post by illithid on Feb 24, 2016 20:56:03 GMT -5
My knock against Karl Joseph is he is 197 lbs but plays like he is a 220 lb SS. He absolutely knocks folks backward at the college level, but I see an oft injured pro career when dealing with RBs and TEs that deliver a bigger hit. Isn't that the same things folks were saying about Ryan Clark?
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Post by feeshta on Feb 24, 2016 22:41:18 GMT -5
So I watched two game tapes on Jospeph and three on Rankins just now. I have to say, I came away from Joseph wondering what people are seeing in him. Maybe I just picked the wrong two games, but he looked very pedestrian to me. He made only a couple of impact plays, very few tackles, and had numerous mental errors that cost his team. Those errors included at least 4 Laron Landry style kill-shot attempts gone south, several other missed tackles that resulted in big plays, a truly embarrasing ankle breaker of a fail in the open field on a huge running play where he had the guy in the crosshairs, far too many plays where he was treated like a blocking sled by WRs and TEs(at least 6 or 7 in the two games), and a whole lot of plays with below average hustle, several where he would have been in position to make a play had he not loafed around thinking someone else had it. He is number 8 for WV, right? Rankins on the other hand did show me something. He doesn't quite have the look of a blue chipper, but he has some skills that could be useful, especially if he can find a way to minimize his shortcomings. The pluses are excellent foot-speed and power. He didn't get pushed back much at all, even when facing double and at times triple teams, showed some nice pop in his hands, and he can be slippery and quick to the ball carrier when he gets free. The downside with him was a tendency to be a bit too easy for the better O-linemen to stick to. Against Texas A&M, he was consistently negated from the play every time he went up against a tackle, either right or left. He seemed to have some trouble with hand-fighting and couldn't keep the blockers hand off of him, which is a classic problem for guys with shorter arms. While he could get some push from his bull-rush, the Tackle would consistently get hold of him and just sit down on it after a couple yards, from which point Rankins had no answers, even when the QB held the ball for long periods of time. He was also a bit slow off the snap the majority of the time, seemingly not watching the ball, but waiting for his man to move. That one might be an easy coaching fix. He could be a poor man's Aaron Donald if he had more urgency off the snap and a little more effort at times. So, Rankins might just be flawed enough to be there at #21, hopefully a little coaching can remedy some of his issues if he comes here. Joseph has me confused. From what I have seen so far I wouldn't have even called him draftable. Edit: Oh, and in case anyone hasn't seen him. Dalvin Cook is a hell of a player. I've watched several defensive players when they faced Florida State, including Rankins, and Cook is something special. He's not coming out this year though.
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Post by PCinOz on Feb 25, 2016 1:50:22 GMT -5
Good analysis on both Feesh
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Post by bigstink9 on Feb 25, 2016 9:12:18 GMT -5
I was just checking out Florida DT Jonathan Bullard's highlights..6'3/283#..and they were ridiculous. Then I read he's graded pre-combine a 2nd rounder!!
That doesn't seem possible. If Bullard isn't the top DL pass rusher in this draft, he's close.
If Scot is worth his rep, this is the draft to load up on the defensive horses up front we need to get this D rolling.
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Post by feeshta on Feb 25, 2016 12:25:42 GMT -5
I was just checking out Florida DT Jonathan Bullard's highlights..6'3/283#..and they were ridiculous. Then I read he's graded pre-combine a 2nd rounder! That doesn't seem possible. If Bullard isn't the top DL pass rusher in this draft, he's close. If Scot is worth his rep, this is the draft to load up on the defensive horses up front we need to get this D rolling. I haven't watched any highlights on Bullard, but I did watch three of his game tapes and came away impressed. He might be a bit of a tweener,but he's a good player. He reminded me a little bit of Woodley who used to play for theSteelers
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Post by PCinOz on Feb 25, 2016 12:43:48 GMT -5
Yup first round grade on my board. Starting to work through the DL/edge guys.
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