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Post by Sirewolf on Apr 22, 2016 1:10:30 GMT -5
I'm proud to live with and be governed by a group of people that want to protect the rights of the majority. We don't want men in a restroom with our young daughters, and we don't want women in the restroom with our young sons. We definitely don't want trans-gender bathrooms because they will turn into a dirty situation in a hurry. Everyone fusses about discrimination. Well, damn it, someone has got to step up and do the right thing to protect the values that made this USA what it is. With the constant pressure coming down on the citizens of this country, there won't be any real men left to defend the way of life we cherish. Any people or performing acts that don't agree with our way of thinking can stay out as far as I'm concerned. More people will consider NC a place they would like to call home.
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Post by The Original Phil on Apr 27, 2016 13:26:42 GMT -5
The thing is, you've already been using bathrooms your whole life with trans people and you have no idea, because like the ignorant lawmakers you worship, you assume a trans woman is just a dude who puts on a dress. By the way, it's already illegal to sneak into bathrooms to molest kids. Here's a picture to help you idiots figure this out.  |
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Post by 44DSL on Apr 27, 2016 18:22:53 GMT -5
We definitely don't want trans-gender bathrooms because they will turn into a dirty situation in a hurry.Please explain, and please use substantiated facts. |
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Post by Sirewolf on May 1, 2016 1:23:07 GMT -5
We definitely don't want trans-gender bathrooms because they will turn into a dirty situation in a hurry.Please explain, and please use substantiated facts. Just common sense on this end, as usual. A HS bathroom orgy turns into an issue. Well.........., everyone is whatever gender they claim for the moment. So who has the right to be in the bathroom? |
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Post by v on May 6, 2016 17:08:01 GMT -5
There is NO proven link, whatsoever, between somebody being transsexual and pedophilia. Just as there is no link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Homosexual men are attracted to other men. Homosexual women are attracted to other women. Not to boys or Girls respectively.
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Post by 1afn1 on May 7, 2016 20:40:57 GMT -5
There is NO proven link, whatsoever, between somebody being transsexual and pedophilia. Just as there is no link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Homosexual men are attracted to other men. Homosexual women are attracted to other women. Not to boys or Cows respectively. So your "common sense" argument, holds no weight. Sure. Let's dismiss the entire ancient Greek and Roman cultures (and we don't have to limit it to them) that for centuries embraced man/boy sexual relationships to the extent that you were weird if you didn't. |
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Post by v on May 7, 2016 20:49:37 GMT -5
There is NO proven link, whatsoever, between somebody being transsexual and pedophilia. Just as there is no link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Homosexual men are attracted to other men. Homosexual women are attracted to other women. Not to boys or Cows respectively. So your "common sense" argument, holds no weight. Sure. Let's dismiss the entire ancient Greek and Roman cultures (and we don't have to limit it to them) that for centuries embraced man/boy sexual relationships to the extent that you were weird if you didn't. Your post points to the fact, that you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to this topic. Socially acceptable behavior from cultures that existed 2000 years ago, has nothing to do with whether a grown adult in the year 2016 is aroused by children. Last I Checked there are a lot of other social norms from those times that aren't acceptable and acted upon by a large number of people to this day. Somebody who identified as heterosexual is just as likely to engage in pedophilia as somebody who identifies as homosexual. There's also a whole lot more psychologically that goes into pedophilia and rape than just sexual arousal. Last i checked, I didn't ready about Roman and Greek transsexuals having sexual relationships with boys either. So your argument really has nothing to do with the topic of This thread. |
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Post by Sirewolf on May 7, 2016 22:22:09 GMT -5
There is NO proven link, whatsoever, between somebody being transsexual and pedophilia. Just as there is no link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Homosexual men are attracted to other men. Homosexual women are attracted to other women. Not to boys or Cows respectively. So your "common sense" argument, holds no weight. sorriness If a guy is arrested for entering a women's bath room claiming that he is a woman at heart? What then? I hope I live long enough to see this beautiful, Kick-Ass United States Of America return to it's former glory. It's just a free - for -all, now. The liberals want a weak population and more government. It's hurt our children, enough. While claiming to stand for civil rights, they actually strip the rights of the people. Why should the Feds strip NC of funds if the citizens of NC are ok with HB2? Because liberals are more extreme than Putin. |
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Post by v on May 8, 2016 10:37:21 GMT -5
There is NO proven link, whatsoever, between somebody being transsexual and pedophilia. Just as there is no link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Homosexual men are attracted to other men. Homosexual women are attracted to other women. Not to boys or Cows respectively. So your "common sense" argument, holds no weight. sorriness If a guy is arrested for entering a women's bath room claiming that he is a woman at heart? What then? I hope I live long enough to see this beautiful, Kick-Ass United States Of America return to it's former glory. It's just a free - for -all, now. The liberals want a weak population and more government. It's hurt our children, enough. While claiming to stand for civil rights, they actually strip the rights of the people. Why should the Feds strip NC of funds if the citizens of NC are ok with HB2? Because liberals are more extreme than Putin. Your argument is as weak as could possibly be. Last I checked rapists and pedophiles are already breaking the law. You think creating a law about what public bathroom they are supposed to be using is going to change things?(good luck enforcing it btw). If you really think that discriminating against homosexuals and transsexuals is what made this country "strong" in the first place, then you are blind as can be. But hey if discriminating against them and believing you're better than them, makes you feel better about your existence, more power to you. It's a shame you don't feel good enough about yourself to be happy about the life you lead without having to look down your nose at the choices other grown human beings make that doesn't affect you or hurt you at all. |
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Post by 1afn1 on May 8, 2016 11:14:43 GMT -5
Sure. Let's dismiss the entire ancient Greek and Roman cultures (and we don't have to limit it to them) that for centuries embraced man/boy sexual relationships to the extent that you were weird if you didn't. Your post points to the fact, that you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to this topic. Socially acceptable behavior from cultures that existed 2000 years ago, has nothing to do with whether a grown adult in the year 2016 is aroused by children. Last I Checked there are a lot of other social norms from those times that aren't acceptable and acted upon by a large number of people to this day. Somebody who identified as heterosexual is just as likely to engage in pedophilia as somebody who identifies as homosexual. There's also a whole lot more psychologically that goes into pedophilia and rape than just sexual arousal. Last i checked, I didn't ready about Roman and Greek transsexuals having sexual relationships with boys either. So your argument really has nothing to do with the topic of This thread. What does he passage of time have to do with the human condition? Are you arguing that the wants and desires of man were different 2,000 years ago than they are today? You know far less than you think you do. The hellenistic influence on modern culture can't be overstated. How is it that you can't point to any part of western society, from sports and games, entertainment, arts, sciences, litersture, and not see a direct line to those ancient cultures and then still say they have nothing to do with sexual attraction. I had a debate about NAMBLA some 25 years ago and it was the defender of NAMBLA who argued at the time it was those same ancient cultures that validated the normalcy of such behavior and that it was relatively new and repressed modern thinking that marginalized and vilified otherwise natural behavior. |
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Post by Alaskan on May 8, 2016 11:17:03 GMT -5
I'm proud to live with and be governed by a group of people that want to protect the rights of the majority. The majority don't usually need their rights protected. |
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Post by v on May 9, 2016 20:37:35 GMT -5
Your post points to the fact, that you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to this topic. Socially acceptable behavior from cultures that existed 2000 years ago, has nothing to do with whether a grown adult in the year 2016 is aroused by children. Last I Checked there are a lot of other social norms from those times that aren't acceptable and acted upon by a large number of people to this day. Somebody who identified as heterosexual is just as likely to engage in pedophilia as somebody who identifies as homosexual. There's also a whole lot more psychologically that goes into pedophilia and rape than just sexual arousal. Last i checked, I didn't ready about Roman and Greek transsexuals having sexual relationships with boys either. So your argument really has nothing to do with the topic of This thread. What does he passage of time have to do with the human condition? Are you arguing that the wants and desires of man were different 2,000 years ago than they are today? You know far less than you think you do. The hellenistic influence on modern culture can't be overstated. How is it that you can't point to any part of western society, from sports and games, entertainment, arts, sciences, litersture, and not see a direct line to those ancient cultures and then still say they have nothing to do with sexual attraction. I had a debate about NAMBLA some 25 years ago and it was the defender of NAMBLA who argued at the time it was those same ancient cultures that validated the normalcy of such behavior and that it was relatively new and repressed modern thinking that marginalized and vilified otherwise natural behavior. You like to point to the Hellenistic cultures. tell me, how common was it in those cultures for transgender people to engage in pedophilia? Since that's the topic of this thread, and since I was calling sirewolf out for his insinuation that transgender adults being allowed to use different bathrooms would be a threat to the safety of children. Hell, based on your argument about Hellenistic culture in the past, apparently we need to prevent all adults from sharing public bathrooms with children right? Since non transgender males are just as likely to engage in pedophilia as transgender ones. So if we are going to "protect children" why just stop at restricting the freedoms of transgender people to do so? |
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Post by mugsy27 on May 10, 2016 9:31:14 GMT -5
was there a huge problem in NC with transgendered people raping kids in bathrooms prior to this law?
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Post by Sirewolf on May 13, 2016 4:31:44 GMT -5
was there a huge problem in NC with transgendered people raping kids in bathrooms prior to this law? Nah. It's just using the good sense that we were given. Instead of saying "**** it". I'll never be brain-washed into accepting something I know is wrong. |
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Post by Sirewolf on May 13, 2016 4:34:17 GMT -5
I'm proud to live with and be governed by a group of people that want to protect the rights of the majority. The majority don't usually need their rights protected. not usually. |
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Post by Sirewolf on May 13, 2016 4:47:06 GMT -5
States vary in culture from region to region. The Feds just need to let each State have a popular vote on such matters. Since the majority is being hurt and having their rights infringed upon when their children witness a bunch of un-natural BS.
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Post by Sirewolf on May 13, 2016 5:21:04 GMT -5
If a guy is arrested for entering a women's bath room claiming that he is a woman at heart? What then? I hope I live long enough to see this beautiful, Kick-Ass United States Of America return to it's former glory. It's just a free - for -all, now. The liberals want a weak population and more government. It's hurt our children, enough. While claiming to stand for civil rights, they actually strip the rights of the people. Why should the Feds strip NC of funds if the citizens of NC are ok with HB2? Because liberals are more extreme than Putin. Your argument is as weak as could possibly be. Last I checked rapists and pedophiles are already breaking the law. You think creating a law about what public bathroom they are supposed to be using is going to change things?(good luck enforcing it btw). If you really think that discriminating against homosexuals and transsexuals is what made this country "strong" in the first place, then you are blind as can be. But hey if discriminating against them and believing you're better than them, makes you feel better about your existence, more power to you. It's a shame you don't feel good enough about yourself to be happy about the life you lead without having to look down your nose at the choices other grown human beings make that doesn't affect you or hurt you at all. Where does your ideology end? Should we allow puppy kennels that supply food? Keep in mind that this is a choice made by human beings and it doesn't affect you. |
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Post by v on May 14, 2016 11:19:19 GMT -5
Your argument is as weak as could possibly be. Last I checked rapists and pedophiles are already breaking the law. You think creating a law about what public bathroom they are supposed to be using is going to change things?(good luck enforcing it btw). If you really think that discriminating against homosexuals and transsexuals is what made this country "strong" in the first place, then you are blind as can be. But hey if discriminating against them and believing you're better than them, makes you feel better about your existence, more power to you. It's a shame you don't feel good enough about yourself to be happy about the life you lead without having to look down your nose at the choices other grown human beings make that doesn't affect you or hurt you at all. Where does your ideology end? Should we allow puppy kennels that supply food? Keep in mind that this is a choice made by human beings and it doesn't affect you. So instead of addressing the argument presented, that transgender individuals preset no extra danger whatsoever to your children, beyond what other adults already do. You resort to an argument about ideology. I could just as easily flip that question back to you. How far does your ideology go? How many groups are you willing to discriminate against and infringe upon their rights, due to your fear that they may present a danger to your kids. Despite any actual evidence of that being the case. Or that your kids will be "exposed to unnatural BS" |
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Post by Sirewolf on May 14, 2016 20:22:57 GMT -5
Where does your ideology end? Should we allow puppy kennels that supply food? Keep in mind that this is a choice made by human beings and it doesn't affect you. So instead of addressing the argument presented, that transgender individuals preset no extra danger whatsoever to your children, beyond what other adults already do. You resort to an argument about ideology. I could just as easily flip that question back to you. How far does your ideology go? How many groups are you willing to discriminate against and infringe upon their rights, due to your fear that they may present a danger to your kids. Despite any actual evidence of that being the case. Or that your kids will be "exposed to unnatural BS" It's clear that acceptance of gay culture is being pushed on the USA's population. It definitely affects our children at a young age. They have it pushed on them from every corner now. So for you to act like there isn't a clear objective, or evidence that points to this, is just silly. And your argument based itself on the fact that things are based on choices made by human beings and it doesn't affect you. Things like this affect us all. They affect the future of our Country. They affect everything. But you didn't answer my question. Why can't we raise puppies for food in this Country? |
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Post by v on May 14, 2016 20:46:10 GMT -5
So instead of addressing the argument presented, that transgender individuals preset no extra danger whatsoever to your children, beyond what other adults already do. You resort to an argument about ideology. I could just as easily flip that question back to you. How far does your ideology go? How many groups are you willing to discriminate against and infringe upon their rights, due to your fear that they may present a danger to your kids. Despite any actual evidence of that being the case. Or that your kids will be "exposed to unnatural BS" It's clear that acceptance of gay culture is being pushed on the USA's population. It definitely affects our children at a young age. They have it pushed on them from every corner now. So for you to act like there isn't a clear objective, or evidence that points to this, is just silly. And your argument based itself on the fact that things are based on choices made by human beings and it doesn't affect you. Things like this affect us all. They affect the future of our Country. They affect everything. But you didn't answer my question. Why can't we raise puppies for food in this Country? In what way does acceptance of homosexuality affect your children? And how is slaughtering a certain type of animal for food, in any way equivalent to transgender and homosexual rights? |
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Post by Sirewolf on May 14, 2016 21:17:02 GMT -5
It's clear that acceptance of gay culture is being pushed on the USA's population. It definitely affects our children at a young age. They have it pushed on them from every corner now. So for you to act like there isn't a clear objective, or evidence that points to this, is just silly. And your argument based itself on the fact that things are based on choices made by human beings and it doesn't affect you. Things like this affect us all. They affect the future of our Country. They affect everything. But you didn't answer my question. Why can't we raise puppies for food in this Country? In what way does acceptance of homosexuality affect your children? And how is slaughtering a certain type of animal for food, in any way equivalent to transgender and homosexual rights? OUR CHILDREN are raised to believe this is an acceptable and normal way of life. So why can't we kill puppies for food? I'm still waiting. |
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Post by Alaskan on May 15, 2016 12:44:34 GMT -5
So, Sirewolf, which of the following would you find more objectionable:
1. A man who identifies as and is dressed as a woman going into a women's restroom, going into a stall and doing her/his business, getting dressed, washing his/her hands (hopefully) and leaving.
2. The same man as #1 doing the same thing only in a man's rest room.
3. A woman who identifies as and is dressed as a man going into a men's restroom, going into a stall and doing her/his business, getting dressed, washing his/her hands (hopefully) and leaving.
4. The same woman as #3 doing the same think only in a women's restroom.
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Post by Sirewolf on May 20, 2016 0:57:36 GMT -5
So, Sirewolf, which of the following would you find more objectionable: 1. A man who identifies as and is dressed as a woman going into a women's restroom, going into a stall and doing her/his business, getting dressed, washing his/her hands (hopefully) and leaving. 2. The same man as #1 doing the same thing only in a man's rest room. 3. A woman who identifies as and is dressed as a man going into a men's restroom, going into a stall and doing her/his business, getting dressed, washing his/her hands (hopefully) and leaving. 4. The same woman as #3 doing the same think only in a women's restroom.  LOL. I'm waiting for y'all to tell me why a puppy mill can't open up and sell food. Since you cannot, I've won the argument and you actually understand what I'm saying, though you would never admit it. |
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Post by v on May 20, 2016 9:51:23 GMT -5
Actually, you posing that question and equating the two things is all the more proof of how wrong you are, and how woefully undereducated you are when it comes to the psychology behind individuals and their gender identity.
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Post by Sirewolf on May 21, 2016 20:46:08 GMT -5
Actually, you posing that question and equating the two things is all the more proof of how wrong you are, and how woefully undereducated you are when it comes to the psychology behind individuals and their gender identity. No. It speaks strongly about your views on human rights. If everyone doesn't think like you, they are woefully undereducated. I don't need a weather man to tell me which way the wind blows. I know that a pure, natural, family life will breed greater generations of people in our USA. Pushing deviance will undermine our foundation. But I'm still waiting for you to tell me why we can't have merchants open up kennels and sell fresh puppy by the reflecting pool. |
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Post by v on May 22, 2016 1:08:59 GMT -5
Actually, you posing that question and equating the two things is all the more proof of how wrong you are, and how woefully undereducated you are when it comes to the psychology behind individuals and their gender identity. No. It speaks strongly about your views on human rights. If everyone doesn't think like you, they are woefully undereducated. I don't need a weather man to tell me which way the wind blows. I know that a pure, natural, family life will breed greater generations of people in our USA. Pushing deviance will undermine our foundation. But I'm still waiting for you to tell me why we can't have merchants open up kennels and sell fresh puppy by the reflecting pool. I'm still waiting for you to tell me how acceptance of Homosexuality and transgender people will undermine society as a whole, other than the normal unproven, unsubstantiated rhetoric that you have been spouting. |
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What does he passage of time have to do with the human condition? Are you arguing that the wants and desires of man were different 2,000 years ago than they are today? You know far less than you think you do. The hellenistic influence on modern culture can't be overstated. How is it that you can't point to any part of western society, from sports and games, entertainment, arts, sciences, litersture, and not see a direct line to those ancient cultures and then still say they have nothing to do with sexual attraction. I had a debate about NAMBLA some 25 years ago and it was the defender of NAMBLA who argued at the time it was those same ancient cultures that validated the normalcy of such behavior and that it was relatively new and repressed modern thinking that marginalized and vilified otherwise natural behavior. You like to point to the Hellenistic cultures. tell me, how common was it in those cultures for transgender people to engage in pedophilia? Since that's the topic of this thread, and since I was calling sirewolf out for his insinuation that transgender adults being allowed to use different bathrooms would be a threat to the safety of children. Hell, based on your argument about Hellenistic culture in the past, apparently we need to prevent all adults from sharing public bathrooms with children right? Since non transgender males are just as likely to engage in pedophilia as transgender ones. So if we are going to "protect children" why just stop at restricting the freedoms of transgender people to do so? There is a problem with pedophilia in public bathrooms, showers, etc. Non-transgender have been engaging in it and use public facilities as stalking grounds. In schools, especially, but in other places, too. Now, we add to the mix the gender-challenged, their sexual confusion and complete willingness to throw out any traditional norms, and you have...what, a reasonably safe situation? Pedophilia in Greek culture was rampant and socially acceptable. You using it as a defense only hurts your cause, unless you prefer we trend towards pedophilia as an acceptable social dynamic. The coerced acceptance of transgenders is going to be a direct link to pedophilia. Hollywood, that bastion of progressive idealism, does everything it can to promote and protect its libertine lifestyle. Multiple child actors have spoken out about the pedohilia ring that IS Hollywood, but no one listens. Elijah Woods being the latest to speak out. They worked over the Catholic church for it while being guilty of the very same crimes and it continues today. Hollywood had a deep history of hiding its gay and lesbian core. Now they are out and being gay is now heroic, but it didn't stop there. It's on to every gender bender that needs a label. What's done in secret today will be a socially acceptable behavior in the future because no one calls it what it is - perversion. And who is the leading voice in the uproar over this? The entertainment industry. Why? Because they are working to normalize what they do in secret, just like they did with homosexuality. The table is set. Feel free to feed your kids to the predators because to deny them would be hateful bigotry. You can't have that! What would the neighbors think? Me, I'm satisfied with that label while keeping my kids away from the perverts masquerading as social revolutionaries. |
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So, Sirewolf, which of the following would you find more objectionable: 1. A man who identifies as and is dressed as a woman going into a women's restroom, going into a stall and doing her/his business, getting dressed, washing his/her hands (hopefully) and leaving. 2. The same man as #1 doing the same thing only in a man's rest room. 3. A woman who identifies as and is dressed as a man going into a men's restroom, going into a stall and doing her/his business, getting dressed, washing his/her hands (hopefully) and leaving. 4. The same woman as #3 doing the same think only in a women's restroom. LOL. I'm waiting for y'all to tell me why a puppy mill can't open up and sell food. Since you cannot, I've won the argument and you actually understand what I'm saying, though you would never admit it. How many nights per week do you drop acid? |
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Post by v on May 25, 2016 19:58:32 GMT -5
You like to point to the Hellenistic cultures. tell me, how common was it in those cultures for transgender people to engage in pedophilia? Since that's the topic of this thread, and since I was calling sirewolf out for his insinuation that transgender adults being allowed to use different bathrooms would be a threat to the safety of children. Hell, based on your argument about Hellenistic culture in the past, apparently we need to prevent all adults from sharing public bathrooms with children right? Since non transgender males are just as likely to engage in pedophilia as transgender ones. So if we are going to "protect children" why just stop at restricting the freedoms of transgender people to do so? There is a problem with pedophilia in public bathrooms, showers, etc. Non-transgender have been engaging in it and use public facilities as stalking grounds. In schools, especially, but in other places, too. Now, we add to the mix the gender-challenged, their sexual confusion and complete willingness to throw out any traditional norms, and you have...what, a reasonably safe situation? Pedophilia in Greek culture was rampant and socially acceptable. You using it as a defense only hurts your cause, unless you prefer we trend towards pedophilia as an acceptable social dynamic. The coerced acceptance of transgenders is going to be a direct link to pedophilia. Hollywood, that bastion of progressive idealism, does everything it can to promote and protect its libertine lifestyle. Multiple child actors have spoken out about the pedohilia ring that IS Hollywood, but no one listens. Elijah Woods being the latest to speak out. They worked over the Catholic church for it while being guilty of the very same crimes and it continues today. Hollywood had a deep history of hiding its gay and lesbian core. Now they are out and being gay is now heroic, but it didn't stop there. It's on to every gender bender that needs a label. What's done in secret today will be a socially acceptable behavior in the future because no one calls it what it is - perversion. And who is the leading voice in the uproar over this? The entertainment industry. Why? Because they are working to normalize what they do in secret, just like they did with homosexuality. The table is set. Feel free to feed your kids to the predators because to deny them would be hateful bigotry. You can't have that! What would the neighbors think? Me, I'm satisfied with that label while keeping my kids away from the perverts masquerading as social revolutionaries. You missed the point completely. You then went on to make arguments that back up my point My point being that. Pedophilia is already a problem and, ding ding ding, there is no correlation between pedophelia and transgender individuals, any greater than pedophilia and non transgender individuals. Your argument that allowing transgender people into different bathrooms, will make this problem worse, is unsubstantiated, opinion. Not fact. Unless you can show me the studies that show, allowing them in different restrooms, causes more instances of pedophelia. If you can back up your claim with actual proof, then I will change my stance. |
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