Delco
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Post by Delco on Oct 3, 2017 4:43:59 GMT -5
No way is that 'loser talk'. It's true... Yay! We agree on something. Sometimes I feel like I'm Terry and the old stalwarts, sometimes I'm a pissy angry young man, but to me, this Chiefs team curb stomped the Patriots in their "ring" game in Boston, beat the Eagles (actually had them beat by 14 points before the Eagles scored a last second TD), and beat the Chargers as well. We're getting little out of our WR's or our run game, and we still played them heads up through the whistle despite a gazillion flag advantage for them, and were a Doctson squish drop away from probably winning. Not bad. After week 1 I thought we were bottom 5 bad, now after the past three weeks I feel like we might be a playoff team if we could get production from our pass catchers and running backs. As for Doctson, yep, bad technique drop, though a typical one, it's not advisable to try to catch a ball by cradling it underneath you as you fall from a steep incline into the turf, it nearly always pops it out, hence the Ricky sanders technique from that 1989 game at Meadowlands, perfect body shifting technique to give the ground your shoulder and side instead of the ball, but it's hard as hell to do. And considering you love Fuller as you do, I was impressed w/his efforts over the weekend, but all things considered, his issues were identical to Doctson's tonight, but much worse, 88th of 96 qualifiers in drop rate in his final year at Notre dame (a 13.9% drop rate), and 82nd in his previous year. Last year he showed some improvement, cutting his drop rate in half, but it still drove Texan fans to distractions since so many were on critical big plays much like Doctson's tonight, but off his hands, instead of being squished out by the ground. Dropping the ball isn't the concern with Doctson, it's getting his behind on the field that is, drops are a Fuller concern, and now that he's healthy, we'll see if he can continue to improve in that area, wonder how many end up being on Watson though, not NFL accurate to my mind was a concern coming into the league, but so far he's shown remarkable poise, we'll see. As per usual, I have no idea what to think of our squad, I hazard no prediction since I'm always wrong when it comes to the redskins (except this week, and I should've been wrong this week if not for the drop), I can't figure out if we're good or not other than on defense where we clearly are. We agree on a lot believe it or not. The drop metrics for Fuller are true, but people blow his drops way out of proportion. Even in college if ND needed a clutch play Fuller delivered. People take metrics out of context and it sends them down a wrong alley. They draw conclusions based off of subjective stats and miss the real picture completely. I get why. People have a bad habit of adopting other people's lingo and brand it as their own (as long as it fits their perception). I don't think folks quite understand how much football I watch. There's always a deeper reason why I have (and stick with) the views I have. Im also capable of being wrong (no one's perfect) and I admit so when I am. |
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Post by Biggest on Oct 3, 2017 6:41:00 GMT -5
When you go on the road to take on an elite team (in '17) in a hostile venue, you have to bring your A game and limit mistakes - coaching ones especially. We didn't do that, and Jay and our boys came up short. Proud of how hard they fought, through injuries and horrific officiating from Walt Coleman and his biased crew. We are now 6-16 all time when he officiates our games, or nearly 3 losses to every win. I wish Gruden would call out the officiating that regularly goes against us. The parity in the NFL is so great that the quality of the officiating helps decide a majority of games, IMHO! Did anybody else think Allen got held on that long pass play at the end? Disappointing, but it not going to be a whiney snowflake ***** about this. The defense got worn out and they were playing with third stringers half the time. The penalties killed them, too. Despite the gaffs, they played tough. KC ripped off chunks of yards here and there, but had to earn everything they got. I'm not going to ***** about Doctson, either. Nobody's more disappointed than that kid. Keep feeding him They were within a hairlash of beating a legit contender in arguably the toughest venue in the league. |
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Kilmer17
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Post by Kilmer17 on Oct 3, 2017 6:46:29 GMT -5
That's a ridiculous stat regarding Walt Coleman.
We deserve an owner and FO that would stand up for the fans and do something about that.
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Post by Biggest on Oct 3, 2017 7:05:47 GMT -5
Kilmer - I have been railing about Coleman for years but not in the CPND Forum. Gibbs and Walsh were the best I ever saw at calling out questionable / substandard officiating. This is an area where Jay can improve big time. That's a ridiculous stat regarding Walt Coleman. We deserve an owner and FO that would stand up for the fans and do something about that. |
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Post by krod on Oct 7, 2017 16:53:05 GMT -5
Kilmer - I have been railing about Coleman for years but not in the CPND Forum. Gibbs and Walsh were the best I ever saw at calling out questionable / substandard officiating. This is an area where Jay can improve big time. That's a ridiculous stat regarding Walt Coleman. We deserve an owner and FO that would stand up for the fans and do something about that. I can understand the concern from looking at that stat. But so much more goes into it. We haven't been winning many games period til the last two years. And if Coleman is just reffing the "big" games, well how many of those have we won lately? I would expect that number to be really low. I didn't feel they hurt us last game. It wasn't perfect but not game breaking imo. I would rather we focus on getting better than spend anytime railing against the refs. That's pretty much a battle you can't win anyway. And I think Jay has done his share of working them on the field. Lol |
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Post by Biggest on Oct 8, 2017 11:22:56 GMT -5
I hear you Krod, but Gruden and the team need to constantly put poor officiating of their games front and center with the league. The best coaches / organizations do as we did when Gibbs was running the show. Kilmer - I have been railing about Coleman for years but not in the CPND Forum. Gibbs and Walsh were the best I ever saw at calling out questionable / substandard officiating. This is an area where Jay can improve big time. I can understand the concern from looking at that stat. But so much more goes into it. We haven't been winning many games period til the last two years. And if Coleman is just reffing the "big" games, well how many of those have we won lately? I would expect that number to be really low. I didn't feel they hurt us last game. It wasn't perfect but not game breaking imo. I would rather we focus on getting better than spend anytime railing against the refs. That's pretty much a battle you can't win anyway. And I think Jay has done his share of working them on the field. Lol |
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Post by Delco on Oct 9, 2017 0:52:26 GMT -5
That's a ridiculous stat regarding Walt Coleman. We deserve an owner and FO that would stand up for the fans and do something about that. Is it? You don't think refs are human and can't be subjective? Why is that premise so absurd? |
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