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Post by bellicosesquid on Oct 23, 2017 22:48:53 GMT -5
Injuries and a tough schedule could be this team's undoing. Next week will be telling.
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Post by cooleydiesel47 on Oct 23, 2017 22:51:36 GMT -5
Next week will be telling but the writings on the wall: Dallas will smoke us like they just did to SF.
Season ender next week at 1pm
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Post by cooleydiesel47 on Oct 23, 2017 22:54:25 GMT -5
When do we make Pryor inactive and call up Harris?
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Post by keithman on Oct 23, 2017 23:12:32 GMT -5
Agree on Harris. We need some wide recievers other than Crowder to get open. Pryor is not ready or responsible
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Post by keithman on Oct 23, 2017 23:14:19 GMT -5
Doctson is basically a no show and so much so that even when he is open Cousins doesn't look for him cause normally he isn't open
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Post by BuryMeInBurgundyAndGold on Oct 23, 2017 23:15:15 GMT -5
very depressed--we will ever see a winner in Redskin Park? a Super bowl winner? no you won't.. that is if your a "baby boomer" or older.. if your 50+ you'll never see the Redskins win another super bowl. break out SB 26 and enjoy it again, it's the last title you'll see in your lifetime. |
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Post by BuryMeInBurgundyAndGold on Oct 23, 2017 23:16:31 GMT -5
When do we make Pryor inactive and call up Harris? should have started and played Ryan Grant more. |
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Post by davewill on Oct 23, 2017 23:20:10 GMT -5
Doctson is basically a no show and so much so that even when he is open Cousins doesn't look for him cause normally he isn't open He’s a BUST!! He’s not till he proves it over a few games. He catches a td and everyone assumes this is the start. Miss me with that nonsense. |
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Post by davewill on Oct 23, 2017 23:20:50 GMT -5
When do we make Pryor inactive and call up Harris? RIGHT. at least he catches the ball. |
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Post by bigstink9 on Oct 23, 2017 23:21:11 GMT -5
People need to realize Philly got lucky with Wentz. This is a dude who was a stud in D-1AA(!) football from North Dakota. He wasn't highly recruited out of HS, didn't start for 3 years in college and with two years of eligibility left he won two D1AA national titles. Big woop.
Still, no one could predict in year 2 as a pro, Wentz would look like the best young QB in the NFL. The kid just has that 'it' factor and an uncanny ability to make off schedule plays.
Nonetheless, that shouldn't be a minus against Cousins. Wentz right now looks like the best dual threat in the NFL. Think Steve Young and Elway.
THe kid is a freak, but that still doesn't mean we don't have a damn good QB in Cousins.
One problem on this offense is we lack great depth or talent at WR. TP is a fraud. Doctson is still learning the pro game. Crowder is MIA and Reed IMO is playing hurt.
Kirkland is a good NFL QB and too talented to let go on the hope we might get lucky to find a better replacement in the draft of FA.
Wentz is looking like a generational talent at the position and you simply can't hold that against KC.
If KC was 'better', maybe this game is closer. But how does that stop the Eagles on offense???
We have a lot of football left to play this season, hopefully we get another shot at these guys.
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Post by cooleydiesel47 on Oct 23, 2017 23:24:43 GMT -5
I'm tired of Jordan Reed.
We are always waiting on him. Dude can never stay healthy long enough to make a difference.
Hoping that we can sucker someone to take Mr Glass in a trade....
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Post by keithman on Oct 23, 2017 23:26:39 GMT -5
We will now be a spoiler for the teams trying to catch the Eagles and nothing more, particular the Cowboys. When the Skins get healthy(if they ever do) they might can upset a playoff team or two but 6 and 10 or maybe 8 and 8 is all we can hope for. I'm 54 and starting to believe that I will never see a Redskin team make it back to a Super Bowl or even better yet win one.
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Post by sydneyunilions87 on Oct 23, 2017 23:26:57 GMT -5
Doctson is basically a no show and so much so that even when he is open Cousins doesn't look for him cause normally he isn't open I think that's a bit harsh. Kirk not looking for Dotson is solely on Cousins and no one else. Dotson is getting open, he's just not getting thrown the ball because cousins gets locked onto the idea of throwing to a predetermined person more often than he should. Fictions lack of production is just as much on Cousins |
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Post by sydneyunilions87 on Oct 23, 2017 23:34:14 GMT -5
For a team that supposedly boasts one of the best offensive lines in football, passing on back-to-back drives on important 3rd and 1 situations with a 230lb RB is either extremely bad play calling or a serious vote of no confidence by the coach in that offensive line. I'd vote for option (a) myself. Just infuriating.
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Post by guru on Oct 23, 2017 23:46:02 GMT -5
I think some of y'all are still off on Doctson. 3 targets. 3 catches. 2 first downs, and should have stretched for the third. He was wide open in the end zone on another play, but Cousins threw to a covered Reed instead. They really need to feed him the damn ball.
Tonight, they got beat by the best team in the league (right now) on their home field and Wentz is playing at an MVP level.
So now they suck it up and make a run for a Wildcard slot. From the play I saw across the league this past weekend, they're in the thick of it (as long as they don't keep losing starters).
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Post by southskin on Oct 24, 2017 0:00:36 GMT -5
Next week will be telling but the writings on the wall: Dallas will smoke us like they just did to SF. Season ender next week at 1pm The game is at 4:25, and though I'm not one to bet on games, I'd bet you Dallas won't do us like they did the 'Niners. I think the 'Skins in a close one. Some of y'all are fickle and hair-triggered. |
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Post by davewill on Oct 24, 2017 0:01:31 GMT -5
Bust!
We r gonna lose to Dallas Next week.
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Post by davewill on Oct 24, 2017 0:02:26 GMT -5
Next week will be telling but the writings on the wall: Dallas will smoke us like they just did to SF. Season ender next week at 1pm The game is at 4:25, and though I'm not one to bet on games, I'd bet you Dallas won't do us like they did the 'Niners. I think the 'Skins in a close one. Some of y'all are fickle and hair-triggered. It not fair triggered. They have done NOTHING to convince us they will win next week. |
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Post by southskin on Oct 24, 2017 0:07:20 GMT -5
For a team that supposedly boasts one of the best offensive lines in football, passing on back-to-back drives on important 3rd and 1 situations with a 230lb RB is either extremely bad play calling or a serious vote of no confidence by the coach in that offensive line. I'd vote for option (a) myself. Just infuriating. IMO, that started the momentum shift in the ballgame. The Eagles were on their heels. If you go up 17-3 or 13-3, then you're potentially looking at a different ballgame. I'm not quite fond of Gruden's playcalling, and he's also becoming rather predictable. Our concernment has now shifted from our defensive backfield to our offensive line. Scherff has an MRI tomorrow, and Williams and Moses are beat the heck up. Cousins is good, but I don't sense he can put the team on his back to make up for the injuries over the long haul. |
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Post by southskin on Oct 24, 2017 0:11:28 GMT -5
The game is at 4:25, and though I'm not one to bet on games, I'd bet you Dallas won't do us like they did the 'Niners. I think the 'Skins in a close one. Some of y'all are fickle and hair-triggered. It not fair triggered. They have done NOTHING to convince us they will win next week. You are wired to view the negative, more so than the positive. You're free to do what floats your boat. I had a conversation with you two seasons ago, and would've thrown stuff in your face (as, you were dealing in fallacies to make a point at the time). But, I didn't do so, since we root for the same team. Whatever, dude. |
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Post by Scotskin on Oct 24, 2017 3:31:37 GMT -5
Pretty much solid dribble in this last page, with an honourable exception or two, definitely hard wired for the negative stuff.
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Post by davewill on Oct 24, 2017 6:32:11 GMT -5
It not fair triggered. They have done NOTHING to convince us they will win next week. You are wired to view the negative, more so than the positive. You're free to do what floats your boat. I had a conversation with you two seasons ago, and would've thrown stuff in your face (as, you were dealing in fallacies to make a point at the time). But, I didn't do so, since we root for the same team. Whatever, dude. I remember this conversation. If I remember correctly the issue was you wanted me to go into extreme detail and I didn’t feel like doing so. I didn’t think the conversation required it. Right now we are a .500 team at best. The record reflects it as does our play on the field. Idk how me saying that we haven’t done anything to convince us that we will win next week is viewing things negatively. |
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Post by Kilmer17 on Oct 24, 2017 7:15:50 GMT -5
The question is: can you win a Super Bowl with Cousins? I think you can. He's, at the very worst, a good QB. The highest paid stuff is irrelevant because that's just how NFL salaries particularly QBs work, the last guy to sign gets more than the previous and so on. I think we need to move on from that discussion. Cousins is good and worth keeping. Need to address other parts of the team now. We have our QB, this loss wasn't on him. Was he as brilliant as Wentz? No, but again, its not like Cousins is responsible for stopping the other team's QB. Last I checked, football's a team game. I we COULD win a SB with Cousins. If we were paying him his true value. But paying him what he wants would limit our ability to sign the players needed around him. |
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Post by hawgwash on Oct 24, 2017 7:43:34 GMT -5
Man - the Eagles are better now than the first game we played 'em and so are we . Tough going - but I like our team . The Chiefs and the Eagles put together multiple long drives after we started out well against both . Third down misses on our part and Wunderkind Wentz . Can't quite put 'em down when we have a chance to go up two scores . Shoot I dunno .
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Post by 53bosticwasboss on Oct 24, 2017 7:57:16 GMT -5
For a team that supposedly boasts one of the best offensive lines in football, passing on back-to-back drives on important 3rd and 1 situations with a 230lb RB is either extremely bad play calling or a serious vote of no confidence by the coach in that offensive line. I'd vote for option (a) myself. Just infuriating. IMO, that started the momentum shift in the ballgame. The Eagles were on their heels. If you go up 17-3 or 13-3, then you're potentially looking at a different ballgame. I agree. That was the beginning of the end. When we threw that pass for no gain on 3rd and 1 and had to punt, I said right then, "That's gonna cost us big time. We should have gone for it on 4th." Sure enough, Eagle's touchdown soon followed. The rest is history. Can't keep giving Wentz possesions. |
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Post by Biggest on Oct 24, 2017 8:08:57 GMT -5
Stink - Wentz is Staubach. Go check the Dodger out on Yutube. People need to realize Philly got lucky with Wentz. This is a dude who was a stud in D-1AA(!) football from North Dakota. He wasn't highly recruited out of HS, didn't start for 3 years in college and with two years of eligibility left he won two D1AA national titles. Big woop. Still, no one could predict in year 2 as a pro, Wentz would look like the best young QB in the NFL. The kid just has that 'it' factor and an uncanny ability to make off schedule plays. Nonetheless, that shouldn't be a minus against Cousins. Wentz right now looks like the best dual threat in the NFL. Think Steve Young and Elway. THe kid is a freak, but that still doesn't mean we don't have a damn good QB in Cousins. One problem on this offense is we lack great depth or talent at WR. TP is a fraud. Doctson is still learning the pro game. Crowder is MIA and Reed IMO is playing hurt. Kirkland is a good NFL QB and too talented to let go on the hope we might get lucky to find a better replacement in the draft of FA. Wentz is looking like a generational talent at the position and you simply can't hold that against KC. If KC was 'better', maybe this game is closer. But how does that stop the Eagles on offense??? We have a lot of football left to play this season, hopefully we get another shot at these guys. |
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Post by gilesfan on Oct 24, 2017 8:15:22 GMT -5
Went is very good, but lets hesitate to crown him too soon. m Ive seen people call him best QB in NFC...
This is how the NFL works; they will be tough while hes cheap and then when it is time to pay him, they will find it difficult to build around him
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Post by bigstink9 on Oct 24, 2017 8:49:48 GMT -5
Went is very good, but lets hesitate to crown him too soon. m Ive seen people call him best QB in NFC... This is how the NFL works; they will be tough while hes cheap and then when it is time to pay him, they will find it difficult to build around him True Giles,but I know you saw the same thing I did last night. Wentz is the type of QB where your only real chance of beating him is to sack him, because if you don't and think you can cover all his WR options, he'll simply run for the first down. You try to stop Wentz from scrambling and he's going to eat up your secondary. The kid already has the ability to elevate his game as the situation dictates and he's unusually cold-blooded. Wentz shouldn't be playing like this for a kid out of North Dakota State. Wentz is the perfect example of why all NFL GMs still covet QBs with elite scrambling ability. And for those who think the read-option is a gimmick, better get used to seeing it more and more because it looks like one of Wentz's favorite play calls. If I had a chance to pick either Newton/Luck/Mariota/Goff/Wentz to build my team, I'm taking Wentz and it's not close. But I still believe if we had another RB who could really compliment CT, not career backups like Perine and Kelley, we'd be more dynamic on offense. Our young secondary guys are not that far off and I'll be glad when we let Breeland go so we can get guys like Moreau and Dunbar on the field more often. We simply cannot blow scoring opportunities against a team like Philly and play small ball. Unfortunately that's what happened last night. |
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Post by Biggest on Oct 24, 2017 9:04:46 GMT -5
Ok - yeah, you're right. Wentz is overrated! Lol! Went is very good, but lets hesitate to crown him too soon. m Ive seen people call him best QB in NFC... This is how the NFL works; they will be tough while hes cheap and then when it is time to pay him, they will find it difficult to build around him |
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Post by gilesfan on Oct 24, 2017 9:14:56 GMT -5
Ok - yeah, you're right. Wentz is overrated! Lol! Went is very good, but lets hesitate to crown him too soon. m Ive seen people call him best QB in NFC... This is how the NFL works; they will be tough while hes cheap and then when it is time to pay him, they will find it difficult to build around him If you are saying he's the best QB in the NFC, then yes, he's overrated. If you are saying he's one of the best QBs in the NFL, then no, he's not. |
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