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Post by bgtimber75 on Dec 31, 2017 19:15:48 GMT -5
In my follow up post I posted the actual record over 4 years. You tell me what's good about it. You explain your thought process that shows that this team is improving.
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Post by PCinOz on Dec 31, 2017 19:46:14 GMT -5
In my follow up post I posted the actual record over 4 years. You tell me what's good about it. You explain your thought process that shows that this team is improving. Well its not. The only thing that has improved from 4 years ago is the passing game. Defense, running game, special teams all still poor. |
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Post by Monkster on Dec 31, 2017 19:47:33 GMT -5
Whatever the record, Kirk Cousins has thrown some of the butt ugliest picks at the worst possible time for three years now, its like the Ghost of Rex Grossman inhabits his body.
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Post by PCinOz on Dec 31, 2017 19:50:40 GMT -5
Whatever the record, Kirk Cousins has thrown some of the butt ugliest picks at the worst possible time for three years now, its like the Ghost of Rex Grossman inhabits his body. He's a had some bad games? Sure, yes he has. Srtill doesn't change the fact the passing game is the only thing that has held this team together over the pass 3 years - and thats an undeniable fact. You don't win 10 games a year and make playoffs when your defense and running games are consistently in the bottom quarter of the league. Name me a team that has? |
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Post by Biggest on Dec 31, 2017 19:58:42 GMT -5
Jan - Spags completely owns him. It's in his head, no getting around it! Whatever the record, Kirk Cousins has thrown some of the butt ugliest picks at the worst possible time for three years now, its like the Ghost of Rex Grossman inhabits his body. |
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Post by Monkster on Dec 31, 2017 20:09:24 GMT -5
So Kev, the only butt ugly ones he’s thrown are against the Giants? C’mon, man, he’s thrown 36 in the last three years and at least half of them he looked into the hands of [insert opposing DB/LB of your choice].
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Post by Biggest on Dec 31, 2017 20:22:48 GMT -5
I didn't say he has only tanked vesus the Gmen. And he has thrown some ugh-ly picks versus other opponents. Most QBs do, even great ones. Here's the deal: if he leaves, get ready for it to be way worse. Like it is in Zona with Blaine and in Denver with Brock. Unless the team has a legit Plan B at QB that has yet to be revealed to us (love Colt, but as a back up), I anticipate another losing season in '18 after Kirk moves on. Only way worse than 7-9. My fantasy of flipping Cousins for Garappolo is obviously off the table, so I really have no idea what the braintrust - namely Bruce, Doug and Jay - wants to do if Cousins proves to be too rich for them to ink long term. So Kev, the only butt ugly ones he’s thrown are against the Giants? C’mon, man, he’s thrown 36 in the last three years and at least half of them he looked into the hands of [insert opposing DB/LB of your choice]. |
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Post by Monkster on Dec 31, 2017 20:32:49 GMT -5
I didn't say he has only tanked vesus the Gmen. And he has thrown some ugh-ly picks versus other opponents. Most QBs do, even great ones. Here's the deal: if he leaves, get ready for it to be way worse. Like it is in Zona with Blaine and in Denver with Brock. Unless the team has a legit Plan B at QB that has yet to be revealed to us (love Colt, but as a back up), I anticipate another losing season in '18 after Kirk moves on. Only way worse than 7-9. My fantasy of flipping Cousins for Garappolo is obviously off the table, so I really have no idea what the braintrust - namely Bruce, Doug and Jay - wants to do if Cousins proves to be too rich for them to ink long term. So Kev, the only butt ugly ones he’s thrown are against the Giants? C’mon, man, he’s thrown 36 in the last three years and at least half of them he looked into the hands of [insert opposing DB/LB of your choice]. We must be watching different "great ones." |
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Post by CapitalD56 on Dec 31, 2017 20:36:20 GMT -5
I didn't say he has only tanked vesus the Gmen. And he has thrown some ugh-ly picks versus other opponents. Most QBs do, even great ones. Here's the deal: if he leaves, get ready for it to be way worse. Like it is in Zona with Blaine and in Denver with Brock. Unless the team has a legit Plan B at QB that has yet to be revealed to us (love Colt, but as a back up), I anticipate another losing season in '18 after Kirk moves on. Only way worse than 7-9. My fantasy of flipping Cousins for Garappolo is obviously off the table, so I really have no idea what the braintrust - namely Bruce, Doug and Jay - wants to do if Cousins proves to be too rich for them to ink long term. So Kev, the only butt ugly ones he’s thrown are against the Giants? C’mon, man, he’s thrown 36 in the last three years and at least half of them he looked into the hands of [insert opposing DB/LB of your choice]. Then you draft one. It's not that hard to understand. KC won't be the last good QB to grace the burgandy and gold, I promise. You keep KC at a way overinflated price, get ready for 8-8 all over again. It doesn't help us much. KC could help us out by re-signing at a reasonable offer, but I doubt he'll come to his senses in time. |
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Post by Biggest on Dec 31, 2017 20:36:29 GMT -5
I don't think so. Roethlisberger and Brees and Rivers throw their fair share. Let's leave it there. I didn't say he has only tanked vesus the Gmen. And he has thrown some ugh-ly picks versus other opponents. Most QBs do, even great ones. Here's the deal: if he leaves, get ready for it to be way worse. Like it is in Zona with Blaine and in Denver with Brock. Unless the team has a legit Plan B at QB that has yet to be revealed to us (love Colt, but as a back up), I anticipate another losing season in '18 after Kirk moves on. Only way worse than 7-9. My fantasy of flipping Cousins for Garappolo is obviously off the table, so I really have no idea what the braintrust - namely Bruce, Doug and Jay - wants to do if Cousins proves to be too rich for them to ink long term. We must be watching different "great ones." |
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Post by cope on Dec 31, 2017 20:37:20 GMT -5
I didn't say he has only tanked vesus the Gmen. And he has thrown some ugh-ly picks versus other opponents. Most QBs do, even great ones. Here's the deal: if he leaves, get ready for it to be way worse. Like it is in Zona with Blaine and in Denver with Brock. Unless the team has a legit Plan B at QB that has yet to be revealed to us (love Colt, but as a back up), I anticipate another losing season in '18 after Kirk moves on. Only way worse than 7-9. My fantasy of flipping Cousins for Garappolo is obviously off the table, so I really have no idea what the braintrust - namely Bruce, Doug and Jay - wants to do if Cousins proves to be too rich for them to ink long term. Then you draft one. It's not that hard to understand. KC won't be the last good QB to grace the burgandy and gold, I promise. You keep KC at a way overinflated price, get ready for 8-8 all over again. It doesn't help us much. KC could help us out by re-signing at a reasonable offer, but I doubt he'll come to his senses in time. |
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Post by Biggest on Dec 31, 2017 20:39:08 GMT -5
Cap - as if Allen's group knows how to draft one. That said, I am hoping for the best because it seems unlikely Cousins will be here in 2018. If we end up winning with a stud rookie QB, I will be thrilled to eat crow. I didn't say he has only tanked vesus the Gmen. And he has thrown some ugh-ly picks versus other opponents. Most QBs do, even great ones. Here's the deal: if he leaves, get ready for it to be way worse. Like it is in Zona with Blaine and in Denver with Brock. Unless the team has a legit Plan B at QB that has yet to be revealed to us (love Colt, but as a back up), I anticipate another losing season in '18 after Kirk moves on. Only way worse than 7-9. My fantasy of flipping Cousins for Garappolo is obviously off the table, so I really have no idea what the braintrust - namely Bruce, Doug and Jay - wants to do if Cousins proves to be too rich for them to ink long term. Then you draft one. It's not that hard to understand. KC won't be the last good QB to grace the burgandy and gold, I promise. You keep KC at a way overinflated price, get ready for 8-8 all over again. It doesn't help us much. KC could help us out by re-signing at a reasonable offer, but I doubt he'll come to his senses in time. |
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Post by cope on Dec 31, 2017 20:39:50 GMT -5
Then you draft one. It's not that hard to understand. KC won't be the last good QB to grace the burgandy and gold, I promise. You keep KC at a way overinflated price, get ready for 8-8 all over again. It doesn't help us much. KC could help us out by re-signing at a reasonable offer, but I doubt he'll come to his senses in time. 7-9 back to back years with terrible defenses and run games. Oh special teams too. Fix those with the same cpt KC and we are looking at very different results. Super bowl I don’t know...but definitely deep runs. Alternatives are what exactly? Rg3 2.0 isn’t very appealing |
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Dec 31, 2017 21:25:45 GMT -5
7-9 back to back years with terrible defenses and run games. Oh special teams too. Fix those with the same cpt KC and we are looking at very different results. Super bowl I don’t know...but definitely deep runs. Alternatives are what exactly? Rg3 2.0 isn’t very appealing We didn't finish 7-9 in back to back seasons. We finished 8-7-1 last year. |
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Post by riggo44 on Dec 31, 2017 22:29:41 GMT -5
I didn't say he has only tanked vesus the Gmen. And he has thrown some ugh-ly picks versus other opponents. Most QBs do, even great ones. Here's the deal: if he leaves, get ready for it to be way worse. Like it is in Zona with Blaine and in Denver with Brock. Unless the team has a legit Plan B at QB that has yet to be revealed to us (love Colt, but as a back up), I anticipate another losing season in '18 after Kirk moves on. Only way worse than 7-9. My fantasy of flipping Cousins for Garappolo is obviously off the table, so I really have no idea what the braintrust - namely Bruce, Doug and Jay - wants to do if Cousins proves to be too rich for them to ink long term. Then you draft one. It's not that hard to understand. KC won't be the last good QB to grace the burgandy and gold, I promise. You keep KC at a way overinflated price, get ready for 8-8 all over again. It doesn't help us much. KC could help us out by re-signing at a reasonable offer, but I doubt he'll come to his senses in time. TOS VIOLATION How well has drafting QBs over the last 25 years gone? Every time I am astounded at your asinine comments and every time you exceed them with your next ridiculous statement. And PLEASE educate yourself (if that's even possible) about what joke BS offers BA has offered Cousins over the past 2 years. |
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Post by riggo44 on Dec 31, 2017 22:44:09 GMT -5
I didn't say he has only tanked vesus the Gmen. And he has thrown some ugh-ly picks versus other opponents. Most QBs do, even great ones. Here's the deal: if he leaves, get ready for it to be way worse. Like it is in Zona with Blaine and in Denver with Brock. Unless the team has a legit Plan B at QB that has yet to be revealed to us (love Colt, but as a back up), I anticipate another losing season in '18 after Kirk moves on. Only way worse than 7-9. My fantasy of flipping Cousins for Garappolo is obviously off the table, so I really have no idea what the braintrust - namely Bruce, Doug and Jay - wants to do if Cousins proves to be too rich for them to ink long term. We must be watching different "great ones." Once you get finished checking the stats of Bradshaw, why don't you look at what the great Brett Favre did in his career. It's comical that you seem to imply Cousins is the first QB to throw bad INTs. Maybe it has something to do with the fact he's missing 3 starters from the O-line (might have something to do with it)? |
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Dec 31, 2017 22:52:39 GMT -5
It's been a long rough season, and today was a rough ending to that season. I can understand why some would be upset, but that is no reason to be rude and insult posters on this board. Take a breath and think before posting. If you wouldn't say that to someone face to face, then maybe it is best if it isn't posted here.
I apologize to the mods if I'm over stepping.
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Post by PCinOz on Dec 31, 2017 22:59:59 GMT -5
As I keep saying, unless things change in the Front Office or ownerships view of the FO, nothing will change.
Until then, just enjoy Groundhog Day.
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Post by riggo44 on Dec 31, 2017 23:04:27 GMT -5
It's been a long rough season, and today was a rough ending to that season. I can understand why some would be upset, but that is no reason to be rude and insult posters on this board. Take a breath and think before posting. If you wouldn't say that to someone face to face, then maybe it is best if it isn't posted here. I apologize to the mods if I'm over stepping. What exactly do you find offensive? Who am I offending? And anything I posted on this board, I would definitely say to their face. I think this world has definitely become PC to a fault. |
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Dec 31, 2017 23:09:06 GMT -5
It's been a long rough season, and today was a rough ending to that season. I can understand why some would be upset, but that is no reason to be rude and insult posters on this board. Take a breath and think before posting. If you wouldn't say that to someone face to face, then maybe it is best if it isn't posted here. I apologize to the mods if I'm over stepping. What exactly do you find offensive? Who am I offending? And anything I posted on this board, I would definitely say to their face. I think this world has definitely become PC to a fault. If you have to ask what comments and tone were offensive, then I feel bad for you. |
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Dec 31, 2017 23:21:07 GMT -5
If you have to ask what comments and tone were offensive, then I feel bad for you. Whatever. Because I called CapitalD a clown? He IS a clown. I feel bad for you. He's a fan with a differing point of view than yours, and many of us here. Calling him a Clown was insulting and unnecessary. You could have made your point without making it personal. And if seeing his posts is too much for you, you have the option to click the "Block Member" option on him. |
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Post by Jurgyfan on Dec 31, 2017 23:28:56 GMT -5
No pride. I’ve hsd it with this franchise. When an administrator throws in the towel you know there's trouble. Been following the team since '64. They weren't good back then, but they never laid down. |
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Post by Monkster on Dec 31, 2017 23:45:16 GMT -5
It's been a long rough season, and today was a rough ending to that season. I can understand why some would be upset, but that is no reason to be rude and insult posters on this board. Take a breath and think before posting. If you wouldn't say that to someone face to face, then maybe it is best if it isn't posted here. I apologize to the mods if I'm over stepping. You did our job, thanks. |
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Post by BuryMeInBurgundyAndGold on Jan 1, 2018 0:24:44 GMT -5
This May be a good thing. This may get some people fired. organization to stupid to do that.. |
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Post by BuryMeInBurgundyAndGold on Jan 1, 2018 0:27:28 GMT -5
Guess now my assumption was right, Eli wants this game..lol And reading how no changes are coming in 18 and no clue on KC...man..hard to get even somewhat excited about any future :-( there is no future unless we can somehow break the bank and have a [email protected] draft and get some great players.. don't hold your breath though. |
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Post by BuryMeInBurgundyAndGold on Jan 1, 2018 0:29:07 GMT -5
 I call him 'no hands' myself.. but Bustson is a great one.. 
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Post by BuryMeInBurgundyAndGold on Jan 1, 2018 0:31:17 GMT -5
So, I guess this is it for us game plan-wise on offense today? Five yard out, five yard in, seven yard waggle route and then punt? I swear, Gruden in games like this just keeps trying the same damn thing over and over again and expects a new result. He is as creatively inept as they come once games get into chess-match country. He's a primarily play-from-ahead OC and coach. Can't win with guys like that. It's why I always laugh when I hear anyone refer to this guy as an offensive "genius". He's not even close. agreed |
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Post by BuryMeInBurgundyAndGold on Jan 1, 2018 0:32:21 GMT -5
Next year is going to be even more painful than this one. Kirk or no Kirk. This time next year we're going to be headed straight for yet another organizational blow-up. And it still won't matter because we'll have the same owner. yep |
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Post by BuryMeInBurgundyAndGold on Jan 1, 2018 0:33:15 GMT -5
How many times in the Gruden KC era have we watched a third and x play go for x minus a couple of yards? Almost as many times as seeing the fade route in the endzone |
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Post by BuryMeInBurgundyAndGold on Jan 1, 2018 1:02:59 GMT -5
No pride. I’ve hsd it with this franchise. When an administrator throws in the towel you know there's trouble. |
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