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Post by gilesfan on Jan 10, 2019 10:40:41 GMT -5
That's Chris Russells statement. Beyond that he speculates as to who it is. He had no clue Kowica was one of them. Sorry, I prefer to watch paint dry that read these clowns interpretations of the shake of an 8-Ball they quote as their source. Something is up. Im guessing the team is again pissed at the media members over the coverage and thus, not leaking information as they would typically do. The organization is a train wreck right now and barring some type of move by Snyder, it's only going to get worse. I honestly feel bad for Gruden. |
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Post by skinsfanvmi79 on Jan 10, 2019 10:59:47 GMT -5
If I were a coordinator for the Redskins, I would want to go elsewhere this offseason simply because it beats getting let go next year after Gruden will undoubtedly be fired. Likewise, I would not accept a job offer to come here for the same reason...unless I were utterly unqualified like, say, Joe Barry. The above makes a lot of sense to me---we are going to see more rats jumping off the sinking ship before this is all over with--IMO |
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Post by skinsfanvmi79 on Jan 10, 2019 11:02:41 GMT -5
More 'non-reporting' as Nack has noted. This is all speculation until moves are made. The Washington Redskins lost their special teams coordinator on Wednesday. Now, they may lose two of their better position coaches as well.riggosrag.com/2019/01/09/rumors-jim-tomsula-bill-callahan-reportedly-want-to-leave-redskins/Certainly there may be fire with this smoke should such moves be made, but let's just wait and see. I just showed you that the tweets on this subject are absolute BS, Ray. You are as news worthy a source as those were. Seriously, consider the source then subtract the speculation and you are left with a day old Ham sandwich. I would love to be the agent for Tomsula and Callahan right now---ole Danny Boy will have to pay through the nose to retain them whether or not they are still under contract--this whole fiasco is getting better by the day |
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Post by Kilmer17 on Jan 10, 2019 11:06:37 GMT -5
Let em all leave. The worse we are next year the better we will be long term.
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Post by Carnack on Jan 10, 2019 11:09:48 GMT -5
Why would the long term be any better if this is the best we can do to date after 18 years of learning by Snyder?
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Post by Kilmer17 on Jan 10, 2019 11:14:03 GMT -5
Because we shouldn't settle for a .400 record as the best we can do. I'd rather see an 0-16 team play in front of an empty stadium. At some point, the NFL will have to step in and remove Dan as majority owner/decision maker.
I'm rooting for the death penalty because I don't see any other way out.
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Post by skinsfanvmi79 on Jan 10, 2019 11:19:24 GMT -5
Because we shouldn't settle for a .400 record as the best we can do. I'd rather see an 0-16 team play in front of an empty stadium. At some point, the NFL will have to step in and remove Dan as majority owner/decision maker. I'm rooting for the death penalty because I don't see any other way out. It would sure be interesting to review the franchise agreement Dan has with the NFL to see if such a "death penalty" clause is in the document, and if so what triggers its application---then the debate could really become interesting on this Board  |
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Post by Carnack on Jan 10, 2019 11:19:38 GMT -5
What if there is no way out (and never has ever been one in retrospect)?
Nothing has changed after all to date, why should we believe it will in the future, regardless of what we do?
Tell me...what does the death penalty actually buy you?
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Post by Carnack on Jan 10, 2019 11:20:40 GMT -5
And to my point about the Twitter Universe being fatally flawed as a source for news.... per John Keim, whom it seems got the news from Dianna Russini...apparently Bill Callahan can't walk after all.
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Post by Carnack on Jan 10, 2019 11:24:36 GMT -5
Seems Dianna Russini knew this before Keim...in a response to that uber Twitter addict Chris Russel's clueless postings.
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Post by Carnack on Jan 10, 2019 11:27:14 GMT -5
Funny stuff, this "Twitter as Bible truth" garbage.
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Post by Kilmer17 on Jan 10, 2019 11:28:01 GMT -5
I see no path forward on the current trajectory.
So a complete collapse (and no, we aren't there or even close really) would possibly force some hands. Be it Snyders, or the leagues, at some point, rock bottom will create a new path.
If youre stuck in a hole, the first step is to stop digging. We are currently continuing to dig.
If people want out, let them out. What possible good is it to force them to stay?
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Post by Carnack on Jan 10, 2019 11:35:07 GMT -5
That won't change anything fundamentally, K.
The only thing is if folks stop supporting the product on the field. That's it. Even then I doubt it really forces Snyder's hand for the first few years.
The 500 mile journey begins with one Season Ticket / DirecTV cancellation.
(I canceled by DTV subscription already.)
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Post by Biggest on Jan 10, 2019 11:38:14 GMT -5
With Russell and the like posting their pathetic, mostly misguided musings as 'fact,' it's definitely a 'Twit-Show!'  Funny stuff, this "Twitter as Bible truth" garbage. |
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Post by Kilmer17 on Jan 10, 2019 11:57:26 GMT -5
That won't change anything fundamentally, K. The only thing is if folks stop supporting the product on the field. That's it. Even then I doubt it really forces Snyder's hand for the first few years. The 500 mile journey begins with one Season Ticket / DirecTV cancellation. (I canceled by DTV subscription already.) "Let me People Go!" And as long as the team is mediocre, people will still support the product. At least more so than they will if it's 0-16 and being coached by whatever HS scrub coach they can convince to join the party. |
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Post by Carnack on Jan 10, 2019 12:04:05 GMT -5
Well if Jay has taught you anything, its that he is the best Coach to date to work under Snyder and this is pretty much the best we are going to get going forward no matter who is coaching this team, save a season with fewer injuries and another win or two.
I doubt we can improve beyond that water mark under Dan Snyder until the KMS is gone.
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Jan 10, 2019 13:09:16 GMT -5
Having coaches want out (true or not) and being reported is a good thing imo. Each one that leaves or asks to leave is a jab to Snyder's midsection.
If all rumors are true, and this is happening, and the reason is primarily Allen and the KMS, then eventually snyder will have to act.
I dont think we are at rock bottom yet, but we are getting close.
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Post by rskin72 on Jan 10, 2019 13:34:26 GMT -5
Well according to ESPN, GW and that DB coach from the Broncos are under consideration for posts with the Jets. Jets appear to be set to hire retread Gase to work with their young QB.
All I know is if changes are going to be made, better start making decisions now....or nothing will change.
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Post by gilesfan on Jan 10, 2019 13:41:27 GMT -5
Im not sure there is anything left to happen that would depress me even more; except hiring Gregg Williams.
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Post by PCinOz on Jan 10, 2019 13:50:33 GMT -5
And to my point about the Twitter Universe being fatally flawed as a source for news.... per John Keim, whom it seems got the news from Dianna Russini...apparently Bill Callahan can't walk after all. Interesting given we posted news articles about his new contract being three years signed in the offseason of 2016 (covering 2016/17/18). Unless they extended it without it being made public sometime over the last year or so, or it had some team option in it. |
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Post by Carnack on Jan 10, 2019 14:48:08 GMT -5
Yeah that was my first thought too, PC.
And since Keim got his information from Dianna Russini, who knows what is true or not.
I really hate this regurgitated Social Media passing for Sports journalism where anybody and everybody is each others "source".
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Post by Riggo Drill on Jan 10, 2019 14:59:13 GMT -5
Well if Jay has taught you anything, its that he is the best Coach to date to work under Snyder and this is pretty much the best we are going to get going forward no matter who is coaching this team, save a season with fewer injuries and another win or two. I doubt we can improve beyond that water mark under Dan Snyder until the KMS is gone. Gibbs II was better. Higher winning percentage (slightly), 2 playoff years, 1 playoff win. |
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Post by griff57 on Jan 10, 2019 15:08:44 GMT -5
Well if Jay has taught you anything, its that he is the best Coach to date to work under Snyder and this is pretty much the best we are going to get going forward no matter who is coaching this team, save a season with fewer injuries and another win or two. I doubt we can improve beyond that water mark under Dan Snyder until the KMS is gone. I’d argue that the best under Snyder was Marty Schottenheimer, if one season counts for anything...but I get your point. I just feel like given our current QB situation KMS buys more years of mediocrity no matter what they do in the short term to address it. As long as we are around .500 they can sell the illusion that we are just a player or two away rather then having a 4-12 or less team in need of blowing up and rebooting. There’s a certain insulation at being .500 in Synderville. |
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Post by Carnack on Jan 10, 2019 15:25:48 GMT -5
Well if Jay has taught you anything, its that he is the best Coach to date to work under Snyder and this is pretty much the best we are going to get going forward no matter who is coaching this team, save a season with fewer injuries and another win or two. I doubt we can improve beyond that water mark under Dan Snyder until the KMS is gone. I’d argue that the best under Snyder was Marty Schottenheimer, if one season counts for anything...but I get your point. I just feel like given our current QB situation KMS buys more years of mediocrity no matter what they do in the short term to address it. As long as we are around .500 they can sell the illusion that we are just a player or two away rather then having a 4-12 or less team in need of blowing up and rebooting. There’s a certain insulation at being .500 in Synderville. Marty had total control of the football operations, so he is not a good comparable to those that followed that has increasingly less influence, ending with the absolute control wielded by the KMS. |
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Post by Carnack on Jan 10, 2019 15:26:30 GMT -5
Well if Jay has taught you anything, its that he is the best Coach to date to work under Snyder and this is pretty much the best we are going to get going forward no matter who is coaching this team, save a season with fewer injuries and another win or two. I doubt we can improve beyond that water mark under Dan Snyder until the KMS is gone. Gibbs II was better. Higher winning percentage (slightly), 2 playoff years, 1 playoff win. I stand corrected (Gibbs had a .468 winning percentage to Jay's .444). Jay will never be mistaken for Joe Gibbs despite the small margin separating their records. And remember, the KMS as we know it today came into full force with the firing of Mike Shanahan, although the roots of it started under Joe and his accommodations to Vinny. Still this furthers my point: Who is going to do better in this management system? |
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Post by raypetty on Jan 10, 2019 19:38:59 GMT -5
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Post by Optics on Jan 10, 2019 19:50:55 GMT -5
I'm rooting for the death penalty because I don't see any other way out. I'm with you. When you love something so much, sometimes the best thing to do is kill it and let it start anew. |
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Post by kaiser on Jan 10, 2019 22:18:46 GMT -5
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Post by Carnack on Jan 10, 2019 22:54:06 GMT -5
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Post by kaiser on Jan 10, 2019 23:23:00 GMT -5
Yes, Chris Russell is an absolute Enema bag and waste of space. I was more interested in Hoffman's take as he is a personal trainer and wondering if there was some substance to the over-working. The injuries at OL over the last 2 seasons are way beyond the bell curve. |
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