Kilmer17
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Post by Kilmer17 on Oct 23, 2017 22:17:01 GMT -5
If everything was perfect around him Cousins would be great. Like the last two years when we won zero playoff games
He’s just not elite. And teams don’t win SBs without elite qbs.
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Post by Hershey22 on Oct 23, 2017 22:18:00 GMT -5
Cousins is a good QB but hes gotta have SOME help. OL is all sorts of banged up and our WRs suck. ..."good" yes... "franchise" no IMO... |
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Post by Montilar on Oct 23, 2017 22:18:03 GMT -5
Pryor again lived up to his nickname.
The second coming of 50/50.
thrown to twice, dropped one.
Correction; Dropped two of three.
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Post by derkngoogly on Oct 23, 2017 22:19:26 GMT -5
We have no running game period thats why we are no good no balance. No play action that is cousins best play
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Post by CapitalD56 on Oct 23, 2017 22:19:42 GMT -5
Not true. I've seen teams win SBs without elite QBs.
But despite what PC and KC's agent says, KC is not worth more than any player in the NFL. To think otherwise is laughable.
And to be fair, Stafford isn't worth more than any player either. Neither is Carr.
We need to add a pass rusher this offseason at LB and DL.
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Post by riggo44 on Oct 23, 2017 22:20:32 GMT -5
Dear Kirk Cousins. Look at the other QB. That’s what a franchise talent looks like. Take your sh*t to Sf next year. F***k your negativity about Cousins. Wentz is playing like the best QB in football right now, but that doesn't mean Cousins isn't a top-10 QB. When did Brady every make the plays that Wentz is making. |
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Kilmer17
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Post by Kilmer17 on Oct 23, 2017 22:21:16 GMT -5
We have no running game period thats why we are no good no balance. No play action that is cousins best play Not true. We don’t have a coach who is willi to stick with a running game. The only time he did, we destroyed the Raiders. He’s too stupid and stubborn to learn from that. |
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Post by cooleydiesel47 on Oct 23, 2017 22:21:56 GMT -5
We watch as other teams tear down,rebuild and compete while the Redskins ask us to be patient. That building the right way takes time.
Yet here we are getting killed while Philly has torn down and passed us within 2 yrs.
And then, there's MNF. Coaches change,players change and we still stink under the lights.
Bruce Allen and Campbell are still stallwarts in the front office/personnel dept and they've added an old QB in Doug Williams, as a distraction to cover up their ineptitude.
There is no hope for this club,period.
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Post by Kilmer17 on Oct 23, 2017 22:21:58 GMT -5
Dear Kirk Cousins. Look at the other QB. That’s what a franchise talent looks like. Take your sh*t to Sf next year. F***k your negativity about Cousins. Wentz is playing like the best QB in football right now, but that doesn't mean Cousins isn't a top-10 QB. When did Brady every make the plays that Wentz is making. Bwahahaha. Top 10? That’s laughable |
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Post by BuryMeInBurgundyAndGold on Oct 23, 2017 22:25:07 GMT -5
don't compare Wentz to a FIVE time superbowl champion. Brady is the best that has ever played the position. Wentz couldn't wear Brady's jockstrap
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Post by Force on Oct 23, 2017 22:25:36 GMT -5
This team isn't mentally tough. Need new personnel.
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Kilmer17
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Post by Kilmer17 on Oct 23, 2017 22:26:28 GMT -5
We watch as other teams tear down,rebuild and compete while the Redskins ask us to be patient. That building the right way takes time. Yet here we are getting killed while Philly has torn down and passed us within 2 yrs. And then, there's MNF. Coaches change,players change and we still stink under the lights. Bruce Allen and Campbell are still stallwarts in the front office/personnel dept and they've added an old QB in Doug Williams, as a distraction to cover up their ineptitude. There is no hope for this club,period. Rack it |
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Post by derkngoogly on Oct 23, 2017 22:27:43 GMT -5
Why not go for two
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Post by riggo44 on Oct 23, 2017 22:28:53 GMT -5
F***k your negativity about Cousins. Wentz is playing like the best QB in football right now, but that doesn't mean Cousins isn't a top-10 QB. When did Brady every make the plays that Wentz is making. Bwahahaha. Top 10? That’s laughable Brady could never run the way Wentz does and if you don't think Cousins is top-10 you're laughable. All of Wentz's biggest plays have come from evading the rush and Brady could never do that. |
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Post by Kilmer17 on Oct 23, 2017 22:30:40 GMT -5
Bwahahaha. Top 10? That’s laughable Brady could never run the way Wentz does and if you don't think Cousins is top-10 you're laughable. All of Wentz's biggest plays have come from evading the rush and Brady could never do that. Well, sadly I think our FO agrees with you. And that’s why we continue to pay him like he’s a top 10 qb. And that’s why we’re still a sh*tty team. |
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Post by davewill on Oct 23, 2017 22:30:43 GMT -5
Smh. I don’t wanna hear anything about THIS being a different year and a different team. This is the same team will they PROVE otherwise.
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Post by 1afn1 on Oct 23, 2017 22:32:04 GMT -5
If everything was perfect around him Cousins would be great. Like the last two years when we won zero playoff games He’s just not elite. And teams don’t win SBs without elite qbs. We won 3 without one. |
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Post by davewill on Oct 23, 2017 22:36:50 GMT -5
So who do we let go next year?
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Post by raypetty on Oct 23, 2017 22:39:05 GMT -5
So who do we let go next year? What? |
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Post by Optics on Oct 23, 2017 22:39:27 GMT -5
The question is: can you win a Super Bowl with Cousins? I think you can. He's, at the very worst, a good QB. The highest paid stuff is irrelevant because that's just how NFL salaries particularly QBs work, the last guy to sign gets more than the previous and so on. I think we need to move on from that discussion. Cousins is good and worth keeping. Need to address other parts of the team now. We have our QB, this loss wasn't on him. Was he as brilliant as Wentz? No, but again, its not like Cousins is responsible for stopping the other team's QB. Last I checked, football's a team game.
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Post by raypetty on Oct 23, 2017 22:40:11 GMT -5
If your talking about Gruden or Allen, I'd say Allen by a mile but that's not going to happen. Both stay probably.
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Post by davewill on Oct 23, 2017 22:41:03 GMT -5
So who do we let go next year? What? Kirk. Pryor. Galette. Davis. Brown... |
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Post by raypetty on Oct 23, 2017 22:41:48 GMT -5
Hard to believe this team beat Oakland and LA Rams
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Post by raypetty on Oct 23, 2017 22:42:54 GMT -5
Kirk. Pryor. Galette. Davis. Brown... Pryor, Galette. You sign Brown to a LTD yesterday, IMO. |
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Post by cooleydiesel47 on Oct 23, 2017 22:42:57 GMT -5
Scott Campbell has been here 20 yrs instructing whoever pretends to be GM who to pick.
Why does he never catch heat?
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Post by cooleydiesel47 on Oct 23, 2017 22:45:34 GMT -5
The Redskins are who they've always been: a bad team whose ceiling is mediocre.
Once every 7-8 years, they go on a fluke run and qualify for a playoff appearance but that's about it.
Why I keep coming back for more defies common sense/logic but I still do it.
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Post by skinsfanvmi79 on Oct 23, 2017 22:47:04 GMT -5
very depressed--we will ever see a winner in Redskin Park?
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Post by Hershey22 on Oct 23, 2017 22:47:11 GMT -5
...I know this game is not square on Kirk Cousins but I still think we should move on if the price stays where it's at... maybe it's not fair watching him and a guy like Wentz in the same game but I no longer see the cost v.s. benefit factor moving the needle for me any longer... that's just me though...
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Post by raypetty on Oct 23, 2017 22:47:39 GMT -5
I understand your frustration CD47 as most of us on this board do.
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Post by raypetty on Oct 23, 2017 22:48:30 GMT -5
Need to move on from Bruce Allen. Look at his records with Raiders and Bucs. Nothing to write home about. That's step # 1!
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