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Post by SkinsFan67 on Aug 10, 2019 23:04:11 GMT -5
Figured I'd take a stab at the 53-man roster after the Browns game. I wanted to go 7 deep at WR, but just couldn't justify it. It meant either dropping the 6th DL (Wicker) or OL (Bergstrom). If Trent hasn't returned or been traded, I'm not sure if he would count against the 53 since he is holding out.
Offense (25) QB (3) Keenum, McCoy, Haskins RB (4) Peterson, Guice, Thompson, Perine TE (3) Reed, Davis, Sprinkle WR (6) Richardson, Doctson, Quinn, McLaurin, Harmon, Davis OL (9) Penn, Martin, Roullier, Scherff, Moses, Christian, Pierschbacher, Flowers, Bergstrom
Defense (25) DL (6) Allen, Payne, Ioannidis, Settle, Brantley, Wicker ILB (4) Bostic, Hamilton, Harvey-Clemons, Holcomb OLB (5) Kerrigan, Sweat, Anderson, McKinzy, Smith S (4) Collins, Nicholson, Everette, Reaves CB (6) Norman, Dunbar, Moreau, Moreland, Stroman, DRC
Special Teams (3) PK (1) Hopkins P (1) Way LS (1) Sundberg
Practice Squad RB Reynolds RB Wilson TE Flanagan WR Kidsy WR C. Sims OT Parris DL Bee CB Alexander S Apke S McIntosh
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Post by PCinOz on Aug 11, 2019 5:12:18 GMT -5
Add C. Sims to the WR group, drop Doctson, then add Steve Sims to the PS and I think you're pretty much there.
I will say though that Wicker and Bee for the last DL spot will be interesting. Both showed something vs Browns.
Bergstrom also in the hot seat for that last Ol place possibly with a cast off from another team.
Also like CB Deion Harris and TE Donald Parham for the PS.
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Post by Biggest on Aug 11, 2019 6:10:55 GMT -5
Agree with everything but DL Wicker and OLB Smith who I don’t envision making the Final 53. I suspect at least 2 guys not in Skins’ Camp today being on the Final 53! Figured I'd take a stab at the 53-man roster after the Browns game. I wanted to go 7 deep at WR, but just couldn't justify it. It meant either dropping the 6th DL (Wicker) or OL (Bergstrom). If Trent hasn't returned or been traded, I'm not sure if he would count against the 53 since he is holding out. Offense (25)QB (3) Keenum, McCoy, Haskins RB (4) Peterson, Guice, Thompson, Perine TE (3) Reed, Davis, Sprinkle WR (6) Richardson, Doctson, Quinn, McLaurin, Harmon, Davis OL (9) Penn, Martin, Roullier, Scherff, Moses, Christian, Pierschbacher, Flowers, Bergstrom Defense (25)DL (6) Allen, Payne, Ioannidis, Settle, Brantley, Wicker ILB (4) Bostic, Hamilton, Harvey-Clemons, Holcomb OLB (5) Kerrigan, Sweat, Anderson, McKinzy, Smith S (4) Collins, Nicholson, Everette, Reaves CB (6) Norman, Dunbar, Moreau, Moreland, Stroman, DRC Special Teams (3)PK (1) Hopkins P (1) Way LS (1) Sundberg Practice SquadRB Reynolds RB Wilson TE Flanagan WR Kidsy WR C. Sims OT Parris DL Bee CB Alexander S Apke S McIntosh IR/PUPDL Brailford RB Love Non Football RelatedLT Williams Last on: DE JoJo Wicker Last off: WR Cam Sims
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Post by tlusby on Aug 11, 2019 8:14:13 GMT -5
Reuben Foster also added to the IR list, Bergstrom will be cut as PC stated, and he will be replaced by another OL somewhere else or maybe Hugh Thornton if he picks it up.
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Post by joewash on Aug 11, 2019 10:51:32 GMT -5
Figured I'd take a stab at the 53-man roster after the Browns game. I wanted to go 7 deep at WR, but just couldn't justify it. It meant either dropping the 6th DL (Wicker) or OL (Bergstrom). If Trent hasn't returned or been traded, I'm not sure if he would count against the 53 since he is holding out. Offense (25)QB (3) Keenum, McCoy, Haskins RB (4) Peterson, Guice, Thompson, Perine TE (3) Reed, Davis, Sprinkle WR (6) Richardson, Doctson, Quinn, McLaurin, Harmon, Davis OL (9) Penn, Martin, Roullier, Scherff, Moses, Christian, Pierschbacher, Flowers, Bergstrom Defense (25)DL (6) Allen, Payne, Ioannidis, Settle, Brantley, Wicker ILB (4) Bostic, Hamilton, Harvey-Clemons, Holcomb OLB (5) Kerrigan, Sweat, Anderson, McKinzy, Smith S (4) Collins, Nicholson, Everette, Reaves CB (6) Norman, Dunbar, Moreau, Moreland, Stroman, DRC Special Teams (3)PK (1) Hopkins P (1) Way LS (1) Sundberg Practice SquadRB Reynolds RB Wilson TE Flanagan WR Kidsy WR C. Sims OT Parris DL Bee CB Alexander S Apke S McIntosh IR/PUPDL Brailford RB Love Non Football RelatedLT Williams Last on: DE JoJo Wicker Last off: WR Cam Sims Wilson would be my choice over Perine, more to backup CT. Don’t think Bergstrom makes it with the drafting of Martin and Pierschbacher. If they go 9 Oline, can see the last on being an OT cut from another team. IMO Sims has shown too much to risk on the PS, maybe they go 7 WRs or get a late rounder for Doctson. Maybe just 4 ILBs, Smith on the PS. Add another DB, McIntosh vs. Alexander. Agree on the rest of the D.
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Post by Biggest on Aug 11, 2019 11:22:13 GMT -5
No way they don’t go 9 OL, Bob. Not saying we have or will have 9 NFL caliber OL when we get to 53, but we will have 9. Think Flowers backs up Martin at LG and Moses at RT given how undeveloped Christian is at this point. Figured I'd take a stab at the 53-man roster after the Browns game. I wanted to go 7 deep at WR, but just couldn't justify it. It meant either dropping the 6th DL (Wicker) or OL (Bergstrom). If Trent hasn't returned or been traded, I'm not sure if he would count against the 53 since he is holding out. Offense (25)QB (3) Keenum, McCoy, Haskins RB (4) Peterson, Guice, Thompson, Perine TE (3) Reed, Davis, Sprinkle WR (6) Richardson, Doctson, Quinn, McLaurin, Harmon, Davis OL (9) Penn, Martin, Roullier, Scherff, Moses, Christian, Pierschbacher, Flowers, Bergstrom Defense (25)DL (6) Allen, Payne, Ioannidis, Settle, Brantley, Wicker ILB (4) Bostic, Hamilton, Harvey-Clemons, Holcomb OLB (5) Kerrigan, Sweat, Anderson, McKinzy, Smith S (4) Collins, Nicholson, Everette, Reaves CB (6) Norman, Dunbar, Moreau, Moreland, Stroman, DRC Special Teams (3)PK (1) Hopkins P (1) Way LS (1) Sundberg Practice SquadRB Reynolds RB Wilson TE Flanagan WR Kidsy WR C. Sims OT Parris DL Bee CB Alexander S Apke S McIntosh IR/PUPDL Brailford RB Love Non Football RelatedLT Williams Last on: DE JoJo Wicker Last off: WR Cam Sims Wilson would be my choice over Perine, more to backup CT. Don’t think Bergstrom makes it with the drafting of Martin and Pierschbacher. If they go 9 Oline, can see the last on being an OT cut from another team. IMO Sims has shown too much to risk on the PS, maybe they go 7 WRs or get a late rounder for Doctson. Maybe just 4 ILBs, Smith on the PS. Add another DB, McIntosh vs. Alexander. Agree on the rest of the D.
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Post by rockville00 on Aug 11, 2019 11:37:34 GMT -5
No way sims is on ps. If he is I bet another team takes him.
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Post by Carnack on Aug 11, 2019 14:15:40 GMT -5
I dont think Flowers makes the cut. He will always be around.
Bergstrom is trash so he can be resigned pretty much at any time off roster. He will always be around.
I look for Doctson to be traded before end of camp, even for a bag of peanuts.
So from 67's list so I don't need to re-type it:
Drop the three players from above.
Add to the 53:
Cam Sims Flanagan OL guy not on the team today (Maybe Trent Williams)
Add to the PS:
Steve Sims Brailford
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Post by rockville00 on Aug 11, 2019 16:44:01 GMT -5
Heard Bill's have 3 good centers. Maybe they cut 1 like bodine that started for the bengals?
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Post by gilesfan on Aug 11, 2019 19:19:06 GMT -5
Id love to see C. Simms step up but he hsnt dont anything vs guys that will play on Sundays. Being invisible except for a drop when the starting WRs essentially did not play isnt promising.
Meanwhile Kidsy was out there making plays.
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Post by Carnack on Aug 11, 2019 19:48:50 GMT -5
Kidsy and Simms are basically interchangeable to me. They are both fighting for a 6th WR position - 7th if the team keeps Doctson.
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Post by Biggest on Aug 11, 2019 20:00:03 GMT -5
Agreed, Nack. I love Flanny. Hope he kills it on Teams to lock up a spot! Do you think both Reaves and Huskie Macintosh make the PS? I dont think Flowers makes the cut. He will always be around. Bergstrom is trash so he can be resigned pretty much at any time off roster. He will always be around. I look for Doctson to be traded before end of camp, even for a bag of peanuts. So from 67's list so I don't need to re-type it: Drop the three players from above. Add to the 53: Cam Sims Flanagan OL guy not on the team today (Maybe Trent Williams) Add to the PS: Steve Sims Brailford
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Post by joewash on Aug 11, 2019 20:06:16 GMT -5
No love for Marshall? He made the best run of the night and showed some nice moves.
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Post by Carnack on Aug 11, 2019 20:26:49 GMT -5
Agreed, Nack. I love Flanny. Hope he kills it on Teams to lock up a spot! Do you think both Reaves and Huskie Macintosh make the PS? I see Reeves making the 53 and JoJo making the PS along with Apke, though he make make the 53 on Special Teams but I hope not. Joe....I also see Marshall making the 53 over Stroman, btw. I failed to catch that earlier, but I think we keep five RB's this year.
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Post by joewash on Aug 11, 2019 20:39:32 GMT -5
Stroman might make it based on returning punts. I don’t see 5 RBs and Perine looked slow to the hole. I think the 4th RB is up for grabs and the preseason will see lots of Marshall, Wilson, and Reynolds with the best being the #4.
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Post by Carnack on Aug 11, 2019 20:42:32 GMT -5
Money sez that our Punt Returner is Mr. Irrelevant.
Stroman is not making the team on his cover abilities, that's a near certainty.
You may be right with regards to Perine versus Marshall, Joe. Marshall provides us insurance with Thompson.
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Post by PCinOz on Aug 11, 2019 21:27:45 GMT -5
Problem is Gruden loves Perine....his new Grant crush.
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Post by rskin72 on Aug 12, 2019 1:11:41 GMT -5
Problem is Gruden loves Perine....his new Grant crush. Not only him...also Randy Jordan the RB coach. He was pretty excited about Perine. I thought I saw a little more burst from him...his best run was called back by a hold. Also noticed him double arming the ball as well when he was contacted. But the way the oline played it was tough sledding for the rb's that saw the field.
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Aug 12, 2019 8:10:36 GMT -5
Add C. Sims to the WR group, drop Doctson, then add Steve Sims to the PS and I think you're pretty much there. I will say though that Wicker and Bee for the last DL spot will be interesting. Both showed something vs Browns. Bergstrom also in the hot seat for that last Ol place possibly with a cast off from another team. Also like CB Deion Harris and TE Donald Parham for the PS. I went strictly with the guys currently on the roster to fill out my 53, but I definitely think there is a very good possibility that we pickup some new faces either from roster cutdowns or via trade. And I definitely don't think we will keep all of our own players for the PS. It's a wait and see for me with Doc. Personally I think he is a lock to make the 53. I really struggled to keep C.Sims off the 53, but found it hard to justify 7 WR at the expense of say, an extra OL or DL. I went with the 9 OL, since that seems to be the norm for us, and especially due to the number of injuries we've had there the past two seasons and the lack of experience for many of the guys (Martin, Piers, Christian). I agree though that if we can find another OL from cut downs or a trade (or if Trent comes back) then Bergstrom is gone. Parham has to play better than he did Thursday night, and beat out guys like Flanagan and Holtz. I don't think we would carry more than one TE on the PS. That drop he had in the game is one a UDFA rookie has got to make if he wants to make it to the PS. I forgot about Harris. If he plays really well in the last 3 PS games, he might just supplant either Stroman or DRC on the 53. I like DRC's vet presense and how he seems to be mentoring both the DBs as well as the young WRs. That in my mind is very valuable resource. If he still has something left in the tank, then even better. I don't think either of the VT 2nd year players are safe. Stroman has to continue to play well on teams, and I'm thinking Alexander is possibly best off trying to convert to Safety and stash on the PS, or just release him outright. From what I've been reading, he is not having a particularly good offseason. I liked what little I saw of Bee. I want to see more of him and Wicker, hopefully some reps against 2nd stringers at least. But I could see Bee beating out Wicker for the last DL spot.
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Aug 12, 2019 8:23:23 GMT -5
Wilson would be my choice over Perine, more to backup CT. Don’t think Bergstrom makes it with the drafting of Martin and Pierschbacher. If they go 9 Oline, can see the last on being an OT cut from another team. IMO Sims has shown too much to risk on the PS, maybe they go 7 WRs or get a late rounder for Doctson. Maybe just 4 ILBs, Smith on the PS. Add another DB, McIntosh vs. Alexander. Agree on the rest of the D. I need to see a lot more of Wilson before replacing him for Perine. I didn't see much to get excited about with Perine, but he was running behind a very suspect OL...and Gruden has been gushing about him. I think Perine is one of those Gruden favorites for some reason the rest of us just can't fathom. He was right about Grant, who I was more than ready to release before he had his "breakout" season in '17. And that is the main reason I have him as our 4th RB. But I would love to see Wilson or Reynolds step up and really shine in the next 3 games and steal that spot to backup CT, who we know is a 50/50 chance to make it through the season healthy (and those are generous odds). I totally agree about Bergstrom. He was the very last guy I put on the roster. I actually had Cam Sims as the 7th WR, but felt we would be more likely to go 9 OL vs 7 WR. I commented in my response to PC that adding an OL from cutdowns or possibly a trade is very possible, then Berg would be the first to go. But I could see us possibly starting with only 8 OL if we think there is a good chance that Trent will come back. If we do that, we could add the 7th WR or 5th RB.
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Aug 12, 2019 8:30:28 GMT -5
No way they don’t go 9 OL, Bob. Not saying we have or will have 9 NFL caliber OL when we get to 53, but we will have 9. Think Flowers backs up Martin at LG and Moses at RT given how undeveloped Christian is at this point. Wilson would be my choice over Perine, more to backup CT. Don’t think Bergstrom makes it with the drafting of Martin and Pierschbacher. If they go 9 Oline, can see the last on being an OT cut from another team. IMO Sims has shown too much to risk on the PS, maybe they go 7 WRs or get a late rounder for Doctson. Maybe just 4 ILBs, Smith on the PS. Add another DB, McIntosh vs. Alexander. Agree on the rest of the D. Don't be too quick to discount Flowers as the starting LG, at least to start the season. Keep in mind he had only been practicing LG for about a week before the game vs the Browns. If he improves in the next few weeks under Bill's guidance and without having to worry about working at LT, he might end up being the best option for now. Martin looked good at times, but he might need a little more time to develop. I do think that Martin is going to be starting before season's end though. I thought it was interesting, and odd, that the starting left side Thursday night was Christian/Flowers, and then later Penn/Martin. From camp reports it sounded like the Penn/Martin combo was playing better so far, so I would have thought that the groups would have been reversed. When I didn't see Penn as the starting LT, I was assuming he was getting the night off like the rest of the projected starters.
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Aug 12, 2019 8:44:44 GMT -5
I dont think Flowers makes the cut. He will always be around. Bergstrom is trash so he can be resigned pretty much at any time off roster. He will always be around. I look for Doctson to be traded before end of camp, even for a bag of peanuts. So from 67's list so I don't need to re-type it: Drop the three players from above. Add to the 53: Cam Sims Flanagan OL guy not on the team today (Maybe Trent Williams) Add to the PS: Steve Sims Brailford Do we ever go with 4 TE? I thought about it, but discounted the idea because we don't ever seem to do that. If one of the group of Flanagan, Holtz or Parham blows it up in the next few weeks, then I could see going with 4 TE with an eye towards '20 and letting VD go. I have Brailford going onto the IR, since he has been nicked up and not practicing. Easy way to stash and protect him from being poached from the PS. It also allows us to add another player to the PS. I originally had S.Sims on the PS, but when I decided to go with 6 WR instead of 7, I moved C.Sims to the PS and took off Steve. I really hated leaving Cam off the 53, but I can't see us going with 7 WR at the expense of depth at another position. And I think Doc is a lock unless he is traded. But my list, I was just going with the current existing roster and not speculating about trades or roster cutdown additions...though both are always an option. If we had a WR injury or traded one from our current roster, Cam would be my first guy off my PS projection.
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Aug 12, 2019 8:48:01 GMT -5
Problem is Gruden loves Perine....his new Grant crush. Yep. And that is the sole reason I have him as the 4th RB. I would love to see Wilson or Reynolds win that spot. I just haven't been impressed with Marshall though.
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Post by skinsfanvmi79 on Aug 12, 2019 9:19:52 GMT -5
I really thought Reynolds played well last week against the Browns ---I think he has a shot at least at the PS--Perrine looks to have the favor of the HC and Randy Jordan---if Perrine plays reasonable well in the next three preseason games I think he locks down the 4th RB job on the 53 man roster---but I hope Marshall shows something ---he would be a good back up for CT---I just can not see them keeping 5 RBs on the 53 man roster
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Aug 12, 2019 9:22:51 GMT -5
I really thought Reynolds played well last week against the Browns ---I think he has a shot at least at the PS--Perrine looks to have the favor of the HC and Randy Jordan---if Perrine plays reasonable well in the next three preseason games I think he locks down the 4th RB job on the 53 man roster---but I hope Marshall shows something ---he would be a good back up for CT---I just can not see them keeping 5 RBs on the 53 man roster I just haven't been impressed with Marshall since he's been here. I would much rather see Wilson or Reynolds step up and take the 4th RB spot over Perine at this point. At least until Love is healthy and can return (probably '20). I've seen enough of Marshall to think he will never be able to replace CT for the short or long term.
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Post by Carnack on Aug 12, 2019 9:24:06 GMT -5
I dont think Flowers makes the cut. He will always be around. Bergstrom is trash so he can be resigned pretty much at any time off roster. He will always be around. I look for Doctson to be traded before end of camp, even for a bag of peanuts. So from 67's list so I don't need to re-type it: Drop the three players from above. Add to the 53: Cam Sims Flanagan OL guy not on the team today (Maybe Trent Williams) Add to the PS: Steve Sims Brailford Do we ever go with 4 TE? I thought about it, but discounted the idea because we don't ever seem to do that. If one of the group of Flanagan, Holtz or Parham blows it up in the next few weeks, then I could see going with 4 TE with an eye towards '20 and letting VD go. I have Brailford going onto the IR, since he has been nicked up and not practicing. Easy way to stash and protect him from being poached from the PS. It also allows us to add another player to the PS. I originally had S.Sims on the PS, but when I decided to go with 6 WR instead of 7, I moved C.Sims to the PS and took off Steve. I really hated leaving Cam off the 53, but I can't see us going with 7 WR at the expense of depth at another position. And I think Doc is a lock unless he is traded. But my list, I was just going with the current existing roster and not speculating about trades or roster cut down additions...though both are always an option. If we had a WR injury or traded one from our current roster, Cam would be my first guy off my PS projection. I think you are too quick to dismiss the "system" element with regard to the TE position. It's not all about receiving. Our blocking has been dismal and now with a new left side I can see us using more TE formations to run the ball. That would mean adding a guy like Flanagan if this in fact is what Jay intends to do. The roster makeup is not all about what we do historically. Anybody that was not on the 53 roster before his injury before being placed on IR will need to clear to clear waivers to be added to the PS or 53 man roster. I can't see that happening with Brailford, but you may be right. In the end a slot on the 53 man roster is about guys that are talented and can contribute. I think we are still light a few bricks of a full load along the OL and we need to address that because our starters have both "old" and "rookies" in the mix. That is a recipe for disaster. The WR group is in the opposite end of that same equation, where we have both talent and depth. If you are going long in a suit its going to be around your strength, especially with this team whose best years are down the road. Sometimes in development you need to protect the advances you make and respect your good fortune. Guys like Davis and Simms are products of Ike Hillard and a good Offensive system. Its about time we actually saw them take the next step.
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Aug 12, 2019 9:27:56 GMT -5
Do we ever go with 4 TE? I thought about it, but discounted the idea because we don't ever seem to do that. If one of the group of Flanagan, Holtz or Parham blows it up in the next few weeks, then I could see going with 4 TE with an eye towards '20 and letting VD go. I have Brailford going onto the IR, since he has been nicked up and not practicing. Easy way to stash and protect him from being poached from the PS. It also allows us to add another player to the PS. I originally had S.Sims on the PS, but when I decided to go with 6 WR instead of 7, I moved C.Sims to the PS and took off Steve. I really hated leaving Cam off the 53, but I can't see us going with 7 WR at the expense of depth at another position. And I think Doc is a lock unless he is traded. But my list, I was just going with the current existing roster and not speculating about trades or roster cut down additions...though both are always an option. If we had a WR injury or traded one from our current roster, Cam would be my first guy off my PS projection. I think you are too quick to dismiss the "system" element with regard to the TE position. It's not all about receiving. Our blocking has been dismal and now with a new left side I can see us using more TE formations to run the ball. That would mean adding a guy like Flanagan if this in fact is what Jay intends to do. The roster makeup is not all about what we do historically. Anybody that was not on the 53 roster before his injury before being placed on IR will need to clear to clear waivers to be added to the PS or 53 man roster. I can't see that happening with Brailford, but you may be right.In the end a slot on the 53 man roster is about guys that are talented and can contribute. I think we are still light a few bricks of a full load along the OL and we need to address that because our starters have both "old" and "rookies" in the mix. That is a recipe for disaster. The WR group is in the opposite end of that same equation, where we have both talent and depth. If you are going long in a suit its going to be around your strength, especially with this team whose best years are down the road. Sometimes in development you need to protect the advances you make and respect your good fortune. Guys like Davis and Simms are products of Ike Hillard and a good Offensive system. Its about time we actually saw them take the next step. I thought that rule changed last year, where you could now place a player on the IR without having to release and clear waivers first when cutting down to the 53.
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Post by Carnack on Aug 12, 2019 9:31:04 GMT -5
I am assuming you are talking about stashing Brailford when the cut down occurs then adding him later when the season has begun. If so, then he needs to clear waivers first.
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Post by Biggest on Aug 12, 2019 10:19:47 GMT -5
Some analysts speculated they wanted to see Haskins with Penn and Martin. I think Penn and Martin are the starters. Flowers best shot at making the team, IMHO, is as a reserve that can fill in at G and - God Forbid - RT. I NEVER want to see Flowers playing LT for the Skins. Ever. No way they don’t go 9 OL, Bob. Not saying we have or will have 9 NFL caliber OL when we get to 53, but we will have 9. Think Flowers backs up Martin at LG and Moses at RT given how undeveloped Christian is at this point. Don't be too quick to discount Flowers as the starting LG, at least to start the season. Keep in mind he had only been practicing LG for about a week before the game vs the Browns. If he improves in the next few weeks under Bill's guidance and without having to worry about working at LT, he might end up being the best option for now. Martin looked good at times, but he might need a little more time to develop. I do think that Martin is going to be starting before season's end though. I thought it was interesting, and odd, that the starting left side Thursday night was Christian/Flowers, and then later Penn/Martin. From camp reports it sounded like the Penn/Martin combo was playing better so far, so I would have thought that the groups would have been reversed. When I didn't see Penn as the starting LT, I was assuming he was getting the night off like the rest of the projected starters.
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Post by SkinsFan67 on Aug 12, 2019 10:29:07 GMT -5
I am assuming you are talking about stashing Brailford when the cut down occurs then adding him later when the season has begun. If so, then he needs to clear waivers first. I had thought there was a rule change, either in '17 or '18, where a team did not have to keep an injured player on the 53 and then place them on IR, thereby avoiding having to risk release/clear waivers/re-sign/place on IR. It took up a roster spot and force the team to release another player that would otherwise have made the 53, wait and hope that player cleared waivers, and then re-sign them. I thought the way it now worked was that a team could place that player on IR at any time prior to the cut down date, and was not subject to clearing waivers first. The injury had to be deemed a significant injury that would prevent a player from being able to practice for at least 6 weeks from the date of the initial injury. That player would then be eligible to rejoin the team at week 8 or so (up to 2 players per team per season). When coming off of IR, I didn't think they would have to be cut and clear waivers to rejoin the team either. I haven't found anything that specifically states that, so maybe my memory is a bit faulty (again).
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